Questions Et Réponses
511-1 ...?... Many I'd have to
get, but I got... I brought my concordance around. I might hand that
over to Leo here, or somebody setting close that might help me if you
wish to, if we get to...
Now, if this lady that's up there, if there's... If she'd... Where's...
Who's her husband? Yeah. Well, if you want your wife come set with you,
they--they could be... There's nothing said amongst brethren but what
could be said to a sister too. We just... You know. That... It's all
right? Now, you're more than welcome to have... Is--is she warm out
there, Doc? Well, that's all right, but it's a little lonesome for her.
And there's nothing--nothing in here... Sometimes the reason I
mentioned men, 'cause there's sometimes men can ask a question amongst
men that couldn't be answered where there's women at. But there's
nothing in there but what could be answered just locally in the regular
church, because it's mostly pertaining to ministers, and so forth, and
what their--their commission is and what they're to do.
511-4 I believe this goes on a
tape recording. If... I'm not sure. Brother Goad, where is that, is
that on tape recording now? All right. The reason we do this is to find
out, brethren, what is the principle, what is the--the part, the...
What's on the man's mind? What--what's our things...
We--we all must speak the same thing. Now, for instance, somebody come
in and say... Maybe they'd go over to brother's church here (What is
your first name, brother? Willard. Brother... Now, there's two
Willard's here; I'll have to give you something else. If I... What is
your last name now? Crase.), Brother Crase's church, and Brother Crase
would say a certain thing. Then they come from Sellersburg over to
Brother Ruddell's, Brother Ruddell's would be different from that. They
go over to Brother Junie's, be different altogether. Come down to the
Tabernacle, and still different. See? It confuses the people.
511-6 Now, like somebody say, "Oh, I don't believe you'd--you really have to receive the Holy Ghost. I don't think it's necessary." Say, for instance, Brother Crase would say that. And then you come over to Brother Ruddell's, and he'd say, "Yes, it's essential." They go down to Junie's, and say, "Well, it doesn't make much difference." See? If we could get together even... I wish we could have all the ministers of Jeffersonville (in this community) to get together so we'd say the same thing.
512-7 And therefore a lot of times deacons and trustees... They have to find out what's their duty. And I see we got the church treasurer and the janitor here tonight, so we're going to find what their duty is. But in this all it's mostly here, is just questions that would be asked anywhere and could be answered anywhere. It's just simple questions, and being like the duties of trustees, the duties of... Now, if it's just actual duties, I think that's took on the board right here now, of the duties of trustee and what they're supposed to do. But I thought maybe...
512-8 And one did come on there,
and I think it's fine; I will answer it after while, the Lord willing
for us to get to it, is...
In a certain crisis, what should a deacon do? What's he... What's his
duty to do when a certain crisis arise? How is he to act? See? Or
what's a trustee to do, what's a pastor to do, something like that,
when a crisis?
We know the regular routine, but what if something happens that's out
of the routine (See?), then what must they do? And we just know just
where to fall to. It's just like training an army, and we each know our
places.
Now, as a group like this, we could stay here half the night; we know
that, but it's... I don't think it's necessary. We'll answer it. Now, I
want each one...
512-10 Now, there's no names, some
of them got names on, but I--I wouldn't call names of the people.
Because just--just whatever the question is, I'll just read the
question. There's just about two of them in there that's got names on
them. And wait, I might have found another one. I know; it's old Doctor
Ingleman; I was making a call on him over at the--the south wing, at
4-426 south wing. That's when the old doctor down here where we was at
today, down at Georgetown, was healed, or I come to after being
unconscious so long, and--and so forth. Now, I think this has got them.
Now, we'll get into our first questions that I studied first.
Now, let's just stand up just a minute, please.
513-11 Our heavenly Father, we
have assembled here as a group of men, Christian men who love You, who
believe in You, and who has dedicated our lives and services to Your
service. There's ministers here, young men, middle-aged men; they got
churches; they're responsible before God. There's deacons here that's
responsible in their offices in these different churches. There's
trustees, their responsibilities. Pastors, evangelists, whatever, Lord,
we're responsible to You. And that's why we come together, that we
might all speak the same thing as we were--said that we must do in the
Scripture. We must all speak alike.
And, Father, we think, in this kind of a group, that we might find
maybe some of our brethren or some of us would have a little
differences upon things, and some were just asking for really to find
out what is truth about it. And we know that we're insufficient, each
of us. If I should ask any of these other brothers to come here to
these questions, perhaps they'd be just as sufficient or more than I'd
be to answer them. But together we are depending on Your revelation,
that You might reveal to us through the Word and through--by Your
Spirit, that it--that we might have an answer for every question. That
our hearts... We might be filled with the answers and we could go away
feeling that we were better equipped for Your service and to serve our
office than--than we are now. That's our purpose of being here, Father.
Grant it now.
And answer our questions, Father, as we wait upon You. Let there be no
puzzling in any of our minds, but may we stay with that question until
it's fully answered and we're satisfied by the Spirit, unanimously
agreed because of His Presence. We ask it in Jesus' Name. Amen.
513-14 I just want to quote a
Scripture to start with. As Isaiah said, the prophet said,
O come... let us
reason together, saith the LORD:...
I think that's why we're here tonight, is try to reason, get things
reasoned out. And now, I would start... And got some of the things
written down here according to numbers and so forth, that I had this
Brother Wood... They caught--got this envelope with answers in them.
And now, I want each of you, my dear brethren, to know that--that these
answers are--are given to the very best of my knowledge, the very best
that I would know how to understand.
513-16 And these answers are not
infallible (See?), because the Scriptures is infallible; and as far as
I know they're lined with the Scriptures. I hope that makes it plain.
And the tape is to be kept now, and anyone that would want it, why,
they could have it. But now, I know the Scriptures are infallible, but
my answers are not infallible. So I'm sure everyone understands that.
And if it's not--if it's not infallible, then you have a right maybe to
ask me at anytime...
If there's somebody else's question... It doesn't have to be your
question, but if it's somebody else's question, maybe you'd never
thought of it, but it's something we're here to help. We're here to--to
come together, because we're in the last days. And the--the days are
evil, and--and we want to be trained, schooled.
514-18 Brother Stricker, a
soldier, Brother Goad back there, a soldier, and perhaps Brother
Ruddell here, he was a soldier; Brother Beeler, and the different ones
that's--that's been military life, you set together, you--you counsel,
you--you know the battle before you get out there, and all the tactics
you can of the enemy, so that you can meet him on his ground.
When I used to box. They'd find out my opponent, what he was going to
be, what kind of a lick he used, whether it was a uppercut, or left
jab, or chop with his right hand, and whether he was right or
left-handed, and how strong he was, and the way he switched his feet,
and how he used his eyes, and what corner he come from, and all the
different tactics we could. And they'd find out what... The--the
trainers had seen that fellow fight before. So then they put a man in
there with me to train me exactly like that man was fighting, to--to
know what he was going to do.
And that's what we're here for tonight. We know the strike of the
enemy. We know what his tactics are. And we're here tonight with
Scripture to cover him over so he can't move, 'cause the enemy's on
every hand.
514-21 Brother Roberson, I was
thinking back there, seeing him, he surely ought to know what a soldier
is. He certainly had a time of it. How many soldiers is in here (Let's
see.), that's been soldiers in the army? Just looky here (See?), a
group of you: soldiers. All right. Now, you know what it is. And that's
what you study, isn't it, Brother Roy, Brother Beeler, and you
veterans, and so forth? Is study the enemy, "What's he going to do?
What's his move?" and then know how to meet him.
And that's what we're here for: study the enemy's move and--and knowing
how to meet him, the thing that'll overcome him.
515-23 And remember, let me say
this, brethren, the little church has started here on a line of gifts.
See? Gifts are coming into the church. But whether there be gifts or
not, if there's never a gift, I'll tell you, the gift won't always
defeat the enemy, but the Word will. The Word will meet him anywhere.
And Jesus, when He was on earth, proved that. His... He was God
manifested in flesh. But He never used any of His fine gifts to beat
the enemy. We find in Matthew the--I believe it's the 2nd or 3rd
chapter of Matthew, He said... No, the 2nd chapter of Matthew, when He
met the enemy, He met him on the grounds of the Word, "It is written."
And the enemy come back, "It is written."
And He said, "It is also written," like that, until He beat the enemy.
And that's what we're here for, is to meet the enemy with the material
that God gave us to--to meet it with.
515-Q-107 Now, I have about four
questions here that's on the... It's on one; it's on one piece of
paper, and I numbered them: one, two, three, four, five, six, eight,
ten, and down like that. And as soon as I get through this, then I'll
jump into those there. Says:
107. Brother Branham, if these questions are out of line then just
disregard them, and I won't feel bad about it, for I will know it was
not the hand of the Lord.
Question number one: Brother Branham, I have heard you... that it
should--should be back in the... I--I--I have heard you say I should be
back in the ministry, and I have thought upon it myself, but have
waited upon some definitely word from Him about it. Up to date it
hasn't come. Now, since I know the end is so near, should I still wait
for the Lord Jesus to--to speak to me? Or, would He be pleased to tell
you what to tell me, since I know you are His spokesman for this day?
Well now, brother, I'd... I got wrote down here my answer to it. God
calling this brother, a call in life... Now, there's one great thing we
could just take that as a text and preach all night on it (See?), that
one thing, "a calling." "Make your calling and election sure." See? We
don't want to be just wondering if we're called. You must be called or
you'll be defeated; we're fighting a battle. See? And if you are
positive sure, brother, that your calling is of God, and you've been
called of God to do a work...
Now, there's a great trick there that the enemy can play on you. He can
make you think you're not called when you are called, then he turn
right back around make you think you're not called; or make you think
you're--you are called when you're not called, vice versa, either way.
And you have to watch it.
516-29 Now, here's the way to do
it. Find out first... Well now, this is advice; only thing I can give
on this is advice. See? But make sure that your calling comes from God,
and then check your motives and objectives. See? Now, you know what I
mean by that. What is your motive for preaching? Was it just... You
think it was a easier job than what you have? Then you'd better forget
it; it wasn't a call.
A call of God burns so in your heart you can't rest day and night for
it. You just can't get away from it; it's just constantly grinding at
you.
516-31 And--and if you had to
preach... You say, well now, another objective, "I believe at the job
I've got, if I could be a successful evangelist or a pastor, have a
good set salary, have a home that I could go into and so forth, and
live, then I--I believe that would be a good thing, much easier than
what I'm doing now. And really I think it would be..." Now, see, your
objective is wrong to begin with. See, it's not right. See? You--you're
wrong there on that.
Then you'd say, "Well, maybe because that I am a--think maybe that I'd
be more popular amongst the people." See, you'll find out you're just
ready for a big flop (See?), really. See?
But now, if your objective is that "I don't care if I have to eat soda
crackers and branch--drink branch water, I'll preach the Gospel
anyhow." Something just tearing into you, "I'll either preach the
Gospel or die." See? Then you'll--you'll go somewhere, because it's God
dealing with you. God is making Hisself known to you, because it is God
just won't let you rest. And usually, a God-called man never wants to
do it. Did you ever think of that? Any man...
517-34 Just recently it was asked
of me by some very precious brethren that said, "Now, that we have come
into the way, Brother Branham, now that we found the Lord and received
the Holy Ghost, shall we seek gifts for our ministry that we should do?"
I said, "Don't never do it." See? Don't never advise people to do
something like that, 'cause usually a guy that wants to do it is a guy
that--that can't do it.
It's the guy that's trying to run from it is the one that God uses.
See? If he's trying to get away from it, "Oh, brother, I tell you, I...
The calling's in me but I... Whew. Man, I'd hate to try that." Well,
there you are. You see? That--that's trying to run.
If he's--if he wants to do it so bad, the first thing you know he finds
himself a stuffed shirt. Like you say, "God, you give me power to move
mountains; I tell You; I'll do something for You if You let me move
mountains." No, he wouldn't; he can't even move hisself to the right
attitude (See?), so he'd never move mountains for God.
517-38 Just take, for instance,
like Paul. You think Paul could've got away from his calling? Oh,
brother. He couldn't do it. It was just grinding at him day and night
till he left his church, he left everything and--and went down into...
I believe it was Asia, wasn't it? And stayed three years down there,
studying the Scriptures, to find out whether It was right or not (See?)
to find out whether God had really called him.
So if God is calling you, brother, and it keeps digging at your heart,
then I'd say, "Lay aside every weight, and the sin that does so easily
beset you." You see? If... But if it's not digging at you, and then
I--I--I wouldn't think too much about it then. Just let it come to its
place.
517-Q Now, he said, this brother
said in here:
Brother Branham, should... Do you think that God would speak... (to me
to tell him).
I believe God would speak right straight to him. 'Cause, you know,
God... We're not too big but what He can speak to us. And He--He--He'll
speak to us, all right. See, He just... He'll speak to us.
And I tell you, if He told me, then the brother might say, "Well, He
told Brother Branham so; praise God."
But you see, it ain't Brother Branham giving you the call; it's the
Lord Jesus giving you the call. See? And if it's the Lord Jesus giving
you the call, He'll do the speaking. See? I could speak to you to your
ears, but when Christ calls you to the ministry it's in your heart.
See? That's where the thing has to anchor and you can't get away from
it.
Now, I believe on the second question... Now, if there's any question
on that, any question to it (See?), that a man's call has to be in his
heart, coming from God. And--and another brother... Oh, I know who this
is that's wrote this. See, I know who wrote it, a precious, dear,
gracious brother that I truly believe has a call of God. But I just...
I wouldn't want him to do it upon mine (That's the reason I answered it
the way I did. See?), upon me saying; "Well, yes, Brother So-and-so
ought to go into the ministry." See?
518-44 Now, you say, "Brother
Branham told me I ought to do that." See, and maybe what if something
happened to Brother Branham, I get killed, or die, or--or get away?
Then, see, your calling is over then. But if Jesus calls you, brother,
as long as there's an eternity it'll still be ringing out. See? And
then you know where you're standing.
Now, on the second, or something like this, "Knowing that it is the
last day..." I sure appreciate that for that brother. I certainly
appreciate that of that brother realizing that we're in the last day,
and the sincerity of his heart, wanting to do something for Christ.
518-Q-108 The next one is:
108. Now, if our precious Lord should let me do a little thing for Him,
should I go back to the communities where I have ministered partially
in the--in error (of which I am sorry) (He has that in parenthesis.)
and try to tell them the truth? They have been so--they have been so
upon my hearts.
No, brother, I wouldn't think it was necessary for you to go back into
the same community. And I believe, brother dear, when the Lord calls
you, He may never let you go as you once was in a community, and you
perhaps taught things or had things that wasn't--that actually you see
different on now (See?), that you might see different from what you did
then. Now, and the Lord, when He called you, He may... If He makes it
real to you, He might send you anywhere. See? You wouldn't have to go
to any certain community or anything.
When you were there you were sincere. I know the brother, as I say,
that's wrote these questions. With the deepest of sincerity, and a real
genuine Christian, you did the best that you could do and with all you
knowed how to do, and that's all God requires. See? Now, if God should
call you back to that community, I'd take right back again. But if He
didn't, I--I believe I'd just go wherever He sent me to. Is there a
question?
519-Q-109 Number three:
109. How does one know their rightful position in the Body of Christ?
That's a good one, very good. "How does..." That'd be the kind of
question amongst many of us here tonight: "How do you rightfully know?"
Now, I'm presuming that this brother wants to know "What position, what
in Christ, what part of Christ do I play?"
Now, for instance, I'd say like this, brother, to give you the best
answer I know. Your position is--in Christ is revealed to you by the
Holy Spirit. And then if you want to know whether it's the Holy Spirit
or not, find out whether He blesses what you're doing, or not. And if
He blesses it, then that's Him. If He doesn't bless...
519-50 Like someone said to me not
long ago, said, "The Lord called me to preach."
I said, "Well, then preach." See? And so he--he... I really think it's
so... Satan, if he can just get somebody as to act like that and then
deceive them, that's just what he wants to do. Then the whole world
points their finger right there. Somebody thinks they have a gift of
speaking in tongues and interpretation; some has the gift of Divine
healing; some has these things like... Sometimes they're mistaken in
those things. See? And sometimes they think they haven't got it when
they have. So it's very tricky.
519-52 So always do this,
brethren, whenever you feel that you're supposed to do a thing, first
find out if it's Scriptural for you to do it, if it's in the
Scriptures, not just wrote in one place, but I mean completely
Scriptural through the Bible for you to do it, your position, say if
you'd be an evangelist, pastor, teacher, prophet, whatever that God
might've called you to be. You see? Or if you have the gift of tongues,
gift of interpretation, gift of any--any kind of the nine spiritual
gifts in the church, and the four spiritual offices of the church, any
position, first see if God called.
Then, usually, way I watch it for myself, just... This is me. I watch
the nature of the person and see what kind of a gift that they're
professing. See, God will work with His creature the way He's made him.
See? He'll make a creature...
520-54 If you see him real flighty
and going on, you--and he says, "The Lord called me for such and such
a--to be a pastor." Now, a pastor can't be a flighty person. A pastor's
solid, sound. See?
"God called me to be a teacher." And watch him how he interprets the
Word. See? He gets It all mixed up and everything, then you can tell.
See?
But then, the thing to do, your position is usually known whether you
can do it or not.
520-57 Now, when God called me to
be an evangelist, I wanted to be a pastor. And I thought staying at
home here would just be fine. And the Lord called me. Finally all the
people got together. There's not a one of them left tonight in here,
that they cried and went out there on 1717 Spring Street. And the lady,
Mrs. Hawkins over here, met me and said (crying, during the time of
depression, when one in the neighborhood would cook a mess of beans and
we'd all come in and eat from that), and she said, "I'll allowance my
children at the table if you'll only build a tabernacle." See?
And my calling was an evangelist. The morning... Laying right here at
this cornerstone, if we could burst in there tonight, you'll see a
flyleaf off of my Bible where He told me to be an evangelist. See? And
I wasn't a successful pastor, never would be, because I haven't got the
patience and what it takes to be a pastor. See? So therefore, if I
tried to pastor, I would just be as far out as a pastor is trying to be
an evangelist.
See what I mean? You can see the way the Lord calls you, what your
position is in the Body. Is there a question?
520-Q-110 110. Do all
Holy-Ghost-filled people speak with tongues sooner or later?
That's the first question, "Do all Holy Ghost..." Then it's all in one
question; I got it lotted here for number four question. But I--I'll
say this first. You see?
Do all Holy Ghost people speak with tongues sooner or later? I find
where Paul said he spoke with more tongues than them all.
All right, question number four: Do all speak with tongues when
receiving the... Or, no, it said, "Do all speak with tongues..." No.
"Do all the Holy-Ghost-filled people speak with tongues sooner or
later?"
Now, brother, I... This is a deep question. Now, there, you probably...
I'll have--probably have some answers back on this.
The Holy Spirit, part of the Holy Spirit is justification. That's when
you first... God has to call you, or you'll never be called. See,
there's nothing you can do in yourself. "No man can come to Me except
My Father's drawed him first." Is that right? So part of justification
is the Holy Ghost.
521-63 Have you heard me explain
to that Lutheran dean that time about the corn field? See? The corn, a
man went out and planted two... planted his corn field. The next
morning he went out and nothing. After while he found two little blades
sticking up, he said, "Praise God for my corn field." I said, "Did he
have a corn field?"
And the Lutheran dean said, "Potentially."
I said, "That is right, potentially he did." But I said, "By..." I
said, "That was you Lutherans."
By and by the shoots grew up and it come to a tassel. That was
Methodists. The second stage of the corn, it's a tassel. (I think
that's right, you brethren from the farm.) And then the tassel looks
back down to the leaf and said, "Huh. I'm a tassel, you're just a leaf.
See, I don't need you no more." And then the tassel... The pollen drops
from the tassel, back into the leaf again; has to have the leaf."
And then from that brings forth the ear. That was Pentecost, the
restoration of the gifts, like went into the first place, back to the
original. Then when the ear come out, said, "I don't need you, tassel.
Or neither do I need you, leaf."
522-67 But after all, the same
life that was in the--the blade of corn made the tassel. And what was
in the blade and the tassel made the grain. So what is the Holy Spirit
speaking in tongues? Is an advanced justification. See? What is the
Pentecostal church? The advanced Lutheran. See?
But now, when the advancing has come, the question would be this, "Then
shall I just remain?" No. No, the corn's matured. See? You start off
with the grain. Start off with the--the Word, the Grain, It'll produce
justification. And stay in justification till It produces
sanctification. Stay in sanctification till you receive the Holy Ghost.
522-Q-111 Now, when you receive the
Holy Ghost, what will It do? What is... Still got a question, haven't
you? All right:
111. What is speaking with tongues?
Speaking with tongues is nothing but a baptism of the Holy Ghost that
justified you and sanctified you. It's so filled... Now, I've wanted...
I wanted this question. God knows I never knew the man was going to
ask, answer it--or ask it.
Now, is it too... If it gets too hot in here, open that door if you get
sleepy or something. I want you to get this good and tight. 'Cause
it--it's really a little warm, might make you get sleepy.
522-72 Now, notice, notice this:
justification, sanctification, the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
Now, look here; here it is. Let me illustrate it. Now, I'm down here;
I'm a sinner; I'm walking this a-way. Once... After while Something
speaks to me. And nothing can turn me but God. Is that right? I'm
turned this a-way. Now, when I turn around, that's my justification. Is
that right? Now, the picture is my object of going (See?), the picture
of Christ.
Now, I want to a place where I can feel good around. See, I'm
justified. Now, I come to this stage here where I can talk to Him,
because... I still ashamed of myself. I still smoke; I still lie, and
done little sneaking things that I oughtn't to do, and all the time my
ups and downs, ups and downs, but I want Him to cleanse me from all
those things so I can really walk up to Him and talk to Him. See? All
right. Here it is. It's sancti... It's stage of sanctification. Now,
what did it do? Straightened me up. See?
523-75 Now, I'm going on to the Holy Spirit. See? And when I get into here I'm in the Holy Spirit by a baptism. Is that right? What does the Holy Spirit do? It gives me power, power to be a preacher, power to be a singer, power to speak with tongues, power to interpret tongues. It's full of power, for the Holy Spirit is the power of God. It was the power of God that turned me around. It was the power of God that sanctified me. Now, it's the power of God that's filled me.
523-76 Now, on a certain occasion,
I'm standing here and I'm trying to say something, and the power of God
comes upon me in such a great way till I just can't speak no more. See?
And I started stammering. Like I was going to say, "Brethren," like
sound like this. Here it is. I'm going to illustrate it in this way.
I'm going to talk to you brethren so that you'd be sure to get it.
"How--how--how you do, brother?" See, I'm still guilty. "Uh, I--I'm
sure glad that I--that I'm still one of you. I--I--I'm so glad." And
see? All right. Now, after while, what? I know you're looking right at
me and know I'm still doing stuff, still doing things that has filth of
the world on it.
After while I get cleaned up. Now, something's happened; I'm
sanctified. I can look you right in the face; I'm one of you. See? All
right, "Brother, praise God. I'm glad to be in this Holy Ghost group.
I'm glad to be amongst you holy brethren." Why? Can't put your finger
on me; I'm cleaned up. But now, God's going to put me in service. Now,
yes, sir.
"Brother Branham, was you justified?"
"Yes. I remember when I just couldn't hardly look at you. Brother, I
can look you in the face now."
523-81 See, here we are. Now,
what's this other? Now, I'm going to... This is cleaned and set aside
for service, and this is coming into service. Now, we all know that the
word "sanctify" is a Greek word, a compound Greek word that means
"cleaned, and set aside for service." The vessels was cleansed and--by
the altar, and sanctified by the altar, and set aside for service. But
to be in service is to be filled and put in service.
Now, I go over here, and now, I'm coming into service. Now, it was God
that turned me, saying, "Hear Me? Hear Me? Hear Me!" He said... You get
what I mean? See? And here, [Brother
Branham illustrates someone speaking in other tongues--Ed.] See, here, you're just so
full, you... That's it. There you are; that's speaking in tongues.
524-84 And I believe this now: I
do not believe that speaking in tongues is any evidence of the Holy
Ghost. It isn't. Because I have seen witches, wizards, snake handlers,
devils, everything else speak in tongues, and it is not an infallible
act of God when you speak in tongues, that you've got the Holy Ghost.
But remember, the Holy Ghost does speak in tongues, and the Devil can
impersonate it.
The--the evidence that you've got the Holy Ghost is the life that you
live. See? "By their fruits you shall know them." And the fruit of the
Spirit is not, nowhere in the Scripture found, speaking in tongues. The
fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, faith, long-suffering, goodness,
meekness, gentleness, patience. See, now, that is the fruit. That's
what you find on the tree to tell what kind of a tree it is. See?
That's what...
Men are looking to you preachers, and to you deacons, and you trustees,
and you evangelists. You could speak in tongues out here on this street
all day long; they'd never believe you. But you live what you're
talking about; you show sweetness, and all the roots of bitterness is
out of you, then men will realize there's something.
524-87 Speaking in tongues... Now,
I do believe this, that sometime another, that a Spirit-filled person
that lays under the altar of God will speak with tongues. But I've seen
many speak with tongues that never knowed nothing about God. See? They
knowed nothing about Him at all, and they still speak with tongues. Any
of those gifts can be impersonated. See?
But the fruit of the Spirit proves what the Spirit is on the inside;
you bear the witness of the Life of Jesus Christ. Because if there's
peach tree sap in the apple tree, it'll bear peaches as sure as the
world. That's right. See, because it's the life that's inside of it.
524-89 Now, that's the same thing
it is here. But now, so that I could get this to you all, so that we
could all know the same thing, I believe that a Spirit-filled person
that... Now, he comes into Christ by a baptism, and just... That is
not... Speaking with tongues is not evidence of the baptism. See?
A baptism, you could be baptized into the Devil's power and speak in
tongues with the baptism of the Devil's deceiving spirit. How many
times have we seen it done? How many times have I seen it done?
I even known of them drinking blood out of a human skull and speaking
in tongues.
I seen the snake dancers on the desert when they wrapped this big snake
around them and go along speaking. The wizard come out like that, and
they'd speak in tongues and interpret it.
I've been in their witch camps where they'd lay a pencil down like
that, and put a book down like this, and a pencil run up and down the
stovepipe, and play, "Shave and a haircut, two bits," and write in
unknown tongues, and the wizard interpret it, and tell exactly what
happened. I--I know that myself. See? So I... See, you can't...
525-94 Paul said, "Where there's
tongues, they shall cease. Where there's prophecies, it'll fail. Where
all these gifts, they'll soon be done away with." (We got the question
a little later.) "But when that which is perfect is come, that which is
in part is done away." See? So we want the perfect thing, brethren.
See? We seen too many things bogus and give the wrong interpretation to
it.
And don't never face a person and--and believe that they got the Holy
Ghost because they speak in tongues. See? But you believe they have the
Holy Ghost because of the fruits that they bear, for Jesus said, "By
their fruits you shall know them." See? That's right, "By their
fruits..."
525-96 Now, but now, let me just
not get away from that now, because I don't want to dishonor a great
gift that God has given. See? And I believe that a Spirit-filled man,
or woman, or a child, that lives under the altar of God, won't live
there long until they'll be speaking with tongues. See? I believe that
he will do it, or she.
Now, you can receive the Holy Ghost, and maybe you didn't speak with
tongues when you get It. See? But if you constantly lay there before
God all the time, with baptism after baptism striking you, something's
going to take place. See? You'll get so full someday till you can't
talk nothing else. See, you--you--you try to say something; you just
can't say it no more; and you just can't say it. And many times if
people realized that that was the Holy Spirit they'd go ahead and just
open their heart up and let God speak to them.
526-98 The Bible said, "With
stammering lips and with other tongues will I speak to this people."
Isaiah 28 (See?), 28:18, "Now, with stammering lips and with other
tongues will I speak."
What is a "stammer"? Somebody who can't talk plain, going [Brother
Branham illustrates someone stammering--Ed.]. You just... You
stammer, just trying. See, just so full of the Spirit, He's try to
say... Like I was going to say, "Brother Ja--Jack-... Ja-... Brother
Jack-... Brother Ja--Ja--Jack--Jack--Jackson." See, it like that,
you're trying to say, you can't say it. See, that's, so filled with the
Spirit. It...
526-100 I want to ask you brethren,
have you ever felt the Holy Ghost shake you so bad till you just
couldn't hardly say nothing, would just set quiet sometime, just sit
there and cry? Have you did that? Well, that's the Holy Ghost. If
you'd... The reason people don't speak with tongues many times; they
don't know how to yield themselves to the Spirit; and they're looking
for something way off when It's right on them. See? That's the reason
they don't...
And then some people just gets theirself worked up in emotion and say a
bunch of words that has no meaning to it, and still ain't got the Holy
Ghost, and try to say they have because they spoke in tongues. "By
their fruits you shall know them." See?
526-102 Now, is there a question? [Brother Junior Jackson says, "Brother Branham?"--Ed.] Yes, brother. ["I'm glad that question was asked, because no doubt somebody was wondering what maybe I believed and taught the wrong thing. But I believe it just like you taught it."--Ed.] Thank you, Brother Jackson. ["Irregardless of how many times I might speak in tongues, or anything, if my life doesn't bear record of what the Bible said, I'm no better than an ornery dog walking the street."--Ed.] That's right. ["And I did not ever speak in an unknown language until six months after I had received my baptism."--Ed.] That's about the way I did it too, Brother Jackson.
526-103 I received the baptism of
the Holy Ghost back in my shed. See? And about a year later, or
something like that, I was--I was--spoke in tongues.
And about a year or two after that, I was preaching again in a church,
and I was--I was standing up on the platform like this, and I... When I
was young and wasn't stiff and old as I am now, I could get around a
little better, and I was very emotionally preaching. I was standing
there preaching, and I just jumped up on a desk. It was on a Baptist
church, Milltown Baptist church, and went right down into the aisle,
preaching just as hard as I could preach like that. And just as I
stopped preaching, Something just had me all carried away and said
several words, four or five, or six words in unknown tongues. And
before I knew what I was doing, I heard myself calling out "The Rock in
a weary land, the Shelter in the time of storm." See?
527-105 And then one day coming
down a railroad track, I was walking down the railroad track this side
of Scottsburg, coming down the railroad track, patrolling. The winds
blowing hard, oh, my, and ice all over the track, and I crossed over so
I could walk down my thirty-three thousand; sixty-six went up the other
way, kind of went parallel to the track. And I was coming down the
track, and all of a sudden... I was walking along there; I was singing.
I always sang. I had different places where I went to pray. I was going
along there, singing, and all at once I come to find out I was speaking
in tongues (See?), not knowing what I was doing.
Speaking in tongues comes in such a combustion that the person hardly
knows what they're doing. Or, they don't know what they're saying. And
interpretation's the same way. They know not what they're going to say.
They have no more idea they're going to say it, because it's
supernatural. See, as long as you get the natural in it, then you
don't--you--you--you got natural. You see? But if something just grabs
you and takes ahold of you, and you're doing it... See?
527-107 [Brother Neville says, "Brother Branham, could I say something right here?"--Ed.] Sure, you can, Brother Neville ["Now, you saying it that way, you're not intending to say, though, that--that tongues would have to be in order in service if a man couldn't control it? Because he is... A man that has a gift is supposed to be in control of it."--Ed.] He can control himself. Yes. Just like...["Supposed to be conscious enough to know that he is about to speak in tongues,"--Ed.] yeah, that's right ["or he is out of order to start with."--Ed.] That's right, he feels it. See? Now, like the Bible said, "If--if there be one who speaks in tongues and there be no interpreter, then let him hold his peace." Now, of course...
528-108 Say, for instance, I'm
standing here, anybody, when you're fixing to shout, same thing. Did
you ever feel the power of God come on you when you start to shout? How
many ever did that? Well, all of us have. See? You just set there; you
feel it coming. Now, there's times when you can quench that. See? You
can hold it (See?); it's not right.
What if you was standing, talking to the--the President of the United
States, or you was standing out here talking to the mayor of the city,
and you was talking about something another, right out on the street
here, you're talking to a bunch of people, and all at once you just
feel like you could jump up-and-down, and scream and holler "Glory,
hallelujah." and kick against everything and run up and down the street
like that. They'd say you was crazy. See? They'd say, "That man's
crazy." See?
528-110 Well, see, you know better
than to do then. You hold, although it's just digging down in you; you
just can't hardly hold it. You say, "Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. Yeah, Yes, sir. Uh-huh." Boy, she's just digging you to pieces,
but you know to hold your peace right then. See?
Like in a courthouse here not long ago, they had some Pentecostals up
for--for doing something another, screaming too loud or something,
which it was... They was absolutely legitimate (You see?); it's right.
But every time the judge would go to speak or go to say something to
them, they'd talk in tongues. See? The judge said, "Take them crazy
people away from here." See?
528-112 Now, if there'd been an
interpretation to that tongues and told the judge "THUS SAITH THE
LORD," certain-certain thing that would have been true, "THUS SAITH THE
LORD, Judge, what are you standing here judging me for when last night
you lived with a prostitute? Her name was Sally Jones; she lived down
at 44 Certain-certain-certain place, like that. Why do you judge me?
That's THUS SAITH THE LORD. Now, deny that and you'll drop dead." Now,
oh, brother, there's something different there.
But when you just stand and speak, and he said, "You're a barbarian to
them." See? Now, you know when to hold your peace and when not to do
it. See? Now, that's... See, I'm... You get me straight now; you know
what I mean. See? That is. Certainly...
529-114 We got that question right
on down here. The reason I was holding it like this, we got the same
thing, "Are they supposed to hold their peace?" You see? That's the
reason I didn't answer it out no more than what you was saying. But
that's the time; answer it now (See?) right now. And we'll get it also
on this question down here, and I'll just refer back to it. Does
everybody understand that question all right?
[Brother
Fred asks, "Brother Branham?"--Ed.] Yeah. Yes, Brother Fred. ["Does--does
a person speak in the Spirit, giving the utterance (say he's an
Englishman and he could speak English) and would the Spirit give the
utterance?"--Ed.]
Certainly, Yes, sir. See, because the Holy Spirit speaks in every
language, See? On the day of Pentecost every language under heaven was
gathered together. See? Speaking in English... Now, I always know this,
Brother Freddie, myself, that I... If I ever preach a sermon there's
any anointing to it, it's the Spirit giving the utterance. You see?
It's the... See? So that would be an unknown tongue to a man that
didn't understand English. But yet...
529-116 And just like the unknown tongue is not an unknown tongue, it's... There's somebody there... Like on the day of Pentecost, they said, all these sinners, they said, "How do we hear every man in our own language? How do we hear these Galileans speak in our own language?" There wasn't no unknown about that at all. There's no such a thing as unknown tongues at Pentecost. Now, see, that's not Scriptural at all. See? There wasn't unknown... It wasn't no unknown tongue; it was a language. "How hear we every man in our own language wherein we were born?" Nothing unknown about it at all. See? That... Any question on that now, right now 'fore we leave it? "How hear we every man in our own language?" See?
529-117 [A
brother says, "That's where there's a little error because of human
weakness, and when people will fail to accept anything, only say, 'I
won't believe it any way, only according to Acts 2: 4.'"--Ed.]Well,
if they had it according to Acts 2:4 they certainly wouldn't speak in
an unknown tongue. ["No,
in a language."--Ed.] Uh-huh.
They'd have to speak in the--in the language that the people heard you
(See?), 'cause every man heard in his own language.
Now, if I receive the Holy Ghost right now, according to... I say... I
believe there's one brother here seeking the Holy Ghost, which
is--is--is Brother Wood. Is that right, Brother Wood? I don't mean to
call you out, but all... We're just brethren here and we're wanting to
say this. And he's seeking the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Now, if
Brother Banks received the Holy Ghost there, the correct way, if he
received It according to the Bible, he'd rise up there, speak it, he
would speak it in English, and saying, "Jesus Christ the Son of God has
raised." He was speaking it with fiery prophecy that tells it. "I know
that He is, because He's just come into my heart. He's the Son of God.
My sins are gone. There's something happened to me." See? There you
are. That's speaking in the... "How hear we every man in our own
language?"
530-119 Say, what if we Indiana
people spoke a different language from the Kentucky people, and Brother
Banks is a Kentuckian? They spoke a different language then, and here
we know that he couldn't speak Indiana language. And then he raised up
there speaking in--in Indiana language, and know that he don't know it.
See? And we hear him in Indiana language; he's thinking he's speaking
Kentucky language. He's just testifying, "Praise God. Jesus has raised
from the dead. Hallelujah." But we're hearing him in Indiana language.
That's the way it was on the day of Pentecost. See? "How do we hear
every man (See?)... Or behold, are not all these which are speaking
Galileans," (See?), Kentuckians? "And how do we Indiana, Ohio, and
Illinois, and Maine, and Massachusetts, and Californians, hear him in
our language wherein we were born?" Get the idea? See, it's
inspiration. See, it's inspiration to them to hear it; it's inspiration
to them.
530-121 See, the message... The
thing of it is, is a testimony of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
See, that's right. Now, if God doesn't live that Life in you, no matter
how much you testify of It, you still didn't get It. See? That's right.
How well you...
Is there another question now? [Brother
Roy Roberson says, "Well, Brother Branham, I think that we saw that
happen in the prayer line, a Spanish girl."--Ed.] Yes. Very good, Brother
Roy. It was at--at right where I'm going now, at Beaumont--Beaumont.
Was it Beaumont? Yes, sir.
Now, the prayer line was stopped. There was a little Spanish girl come
up on the platform. Well, frankly, I believe I was going out, wasn't
it? Howard was taking me out, and--and this... I--I--I heard somebody
crying; it was a little Spanish girl there, oh, about fifteen, sixteen
years old, right--just a kid. And--and I looked, and she'd been the
next prayer card if I'd have went ahead. I had a bunch up there; she'd
a-been the next prayer card. I said, "Bring her on." So they brought
her on up. I was going over to another meeting, and I said, "Bring her
on up."
So I come to find out; I said to her something like this, "Now, will
you believe? If Jesus will help me to tell you what's wrong with you,
will you believe that--that He will heal you?" And she just kept her
head down. I thought she must be deaf and dumb. See?
531-125 So when I looked again, I
said, "No, she just can't speak English." So they got an interpreter to
come there, and I said, "Will you believe It?" She motioned back to...
Then she could understand through the interpreter, of course. See?
Well, then, I said... And I looked and I saw a vision. I said, "I see
you setting by an old fashioned fireplace and a big kettle swinging
out, full of ears of yellow corn." You old... You remember that,
Brother Roy? I said, "You overeat that corn. And when you did, you fell
violently ill, and your mother put you on the bed and you started with
epileptic fits." And I said, "You've had them ever since."
And then she turns around to the interpreter and said to him through
her own language, "I thought he couldn't speak English--or speak
Spanish."
And he turned to me and said, "You didn't speak Spanish, did you?"
I said, "No." So we looked on the recorder, stopped the recorders; it
was absolutely English.
531-130 But then the interpreter
said, "You tell me what he said then." See, he had to get the
interpretation. Said, "You tell me what he said." And she said the very
same words back to him, and he give it out again.
Now, she heard me in her own language wherein she was born; I was
speaking English. She heard it in Spanish. "How hear we every man in
our own tongue wherein we were born?" And the child was healed. See,
that's it, it's the wonderful works of God.
[A
brother asks, "Then the vessel who is containing the Holy Spirit will
not--will just be a vessel, and the One Who fills it can fill it with
what He wants?"--Ed.] Whatever
He desires... That's right. Exactly right. And then watch what it's
filled with, then you know whether you got the Holy Ghost or not, then.
See? Just watch what it's filled with. If the--if the vessel is filled
with impurities, then it is not God's vessel. But it's filled with
purities, then it is God's vessel. See what I mean? [The
brother says, "And the vessel, there are times when the vessel will be
used and not known, not be known at the time what--that it was
used?"--Ed.] Oh,
sure. [The
brother gives a testimony.--Ed.] Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's
exactly right, sure. Oh, we all; we see that. I've seen that many
times. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We all... We know we're acquainted with
those things.
532-133 I believe that was number
four:
Do all--do all Holy Ghost-filled people speak with tongues sooner or
later? I find where Paul said, "I speak with more tongues than--than
them all."
Now, what I think now, to finish the brother's question: Paul, speaking
with more tongues than all.
Paul was a smart man;, he knowed many languages himself. See, he could
speak with... he... Remember when he'd get in trial, he could speak
with this kind of a tongue, or that kind of a tongue, or whatever it
was. That's unknown tongues to the people, but that wasn't
inspirational. That was talk languages. You see? But... and...
532-134 But I do believe that a
Spirit-filled person that lives under the altar of God, no doubt,
sooner or later, will have an experience of speaking in tongues, 'cause
that's one of the lowest and least things there is according to Paul's
description. If you'd put them in order, it's the last thing on the
line of gifts (See?), is speaking with tongues.
But now, first, you're baptized... Here, each one of you all are gifts.
I'm on the outside. Now, "By one Door, one Spirit," one door enters
this room. Is that right? I can't come in that way, can't come in this
way, and back that way. See? How do I get in here? By Brother Roberson?
No, sir. By, well, say, Brother Leo, say he'd be a gift of speaking in
tongues (See?), do I get in by Leo? No, sir. Huh-uh. Well, how do I get
in? "By one Door, by one Spirit." The Spirit just ain't all tongues.
Oh, no. Huh-uh. See? See, "By one Spirit I am baptized into this Body."
533-136 Now, this is Spirit, you
all are gifts. You say, "Well, bless God," I'll go over and, say, there
to--there's Brother Wood, he's miracles. See? "Oh, I had a miracle
performed. I know I got the Holy Ghost 'cause I performed a miracle."
Not by one "miracle" are we all into the Body.
Go to Brother Junie then, he's knowledge, "Well, well, I got the
knowledge of the Bible. Boy, I tell you, I know I got the Holy Ghost,
'cause of that." No, that still ain't the way to enter.
All right. Not by Brother Leo, not by Brother Wood, not--not by Brother
Junie. See? No. But by one what? [Congregation
says, "Spirit."--Ed.] All
right. I'm baptized into this Body, now I'm into it. Now where's Father
going to use me? See? It happened to be Leo was setting close to the
door; no doubt this would be one of the first things would happen, but
it might not be. I might be so much rich in the Spirit, God would go
plumb over here to Brother Wood, bypass all the rest of it. And you
can't tell me now I haven't got the Holy Ghost, 'cause I'm in this Body
by baptism. But God never brought me in here to say, "Well, bless God,
guess I'll set down now, take her easy; I'm going to heaven." Huh. See
what I mean?
But I could go plumb back from this here, plumb back to there. See what
I mean? I could go from one extreme to the other, or I might go in the
middle, or anywhere. But something will happen, something's got to take
place. And what is it? By the Spirit baptism shows me that I'm in the
Body, "By one Spirit." You get that, brother, here? Okay. That it? All
right.
533-Q-112 112. In what order is
tongues and prophecies to be used during the service... (It is not to
be used at all during the service. See?)... to glorify God... (not at
all)... and edify the church? I know the people say the spirit of the
prophet is... I know the... I--I know the... (p-... I guess that... No,
I beg your pardon, it's been "the Bible," B-i-b-l-e. I started
p-e-p-l-e or something like it. No)... The--the Bible says, "The spirit
of the prophets is subject to the prophet." Exactly
Spiritual speaking in tongues and prophesying is to edify the church,
but it has its service of its own. See? It isn't to bother as long as
the prophet of the church is--the meeting's in order. See? It's never
to interrupt the meeting.
Now, see, "the spirits of the prophets." We--we got another question
now, let's let that go just for a minute. See, the real correct way of
these... operate these gifts... This is answering many gifts. You see?
When we get to them we'll say we answered it in this first one, this
person on this one here. See? That's number five:
The tongues and prophecies to be used during the services to glorify
God?
You see, now, the minister... If the minister is anointed of God, and
the church is set in order, now, the correct way... Many of you know
how I--I've talked to you about "have it set in order." These gifts are
supposed... Now, here's what we do in the Tabernacle, the Lord willing.
Now, I'm watching; I'm seeing something, leaving Brother Neville and
these other brethren here in order. Now, you're... And many of these
brothers are young brothers.
534-143 Now, I'm--I'm an old
veteran to--to all of you in this Way. I've been thirty-one years in
This. It was about thirty years ago I laid that stone there. I've had
to face everything there was to be faced, and you better know what
you're talking about too, when you come to it. You better not only know
that, better be God there to back it up when you get--when you get
through with it.
Now, the most successful way of--of doing this... Now, you could have a
special meeting. I believe that's what they done in I Corinthians 14
there, "Something be revealed to one setting by, let the other one hold
his peace then." I believe it was a special meeting for gifts, which
would be all right. If they wanted to have a special meeting where all
the gifted people met once a week, them with gifts, and come into the
church, that'd be fine. Let them have that meeting, there's no--be no
preaching, it's for the gifts of the Spirit.
534-145 It ain't for the outsiders
and the unbelievers. They'd come in, set down, say... One raise up and
go, "Aw-aw," speak in tongues; the other one say, "wha-ah." "What in
the world?" They'd come in and say, "Where's the singing? Where's the
rest of it?" See?
But now, these that's speaking in tongues, many of them, and
interpreting, and so forth, are babes in the Gospel. See? Don't--don't
offend them; let them--let them grow till that gift... Some of it, you
can see how Satan tries to weave into some. 'Course, veterans,
we--we--we see that. See, we can catch that, and you'll watch it.
535-147 Here not long ago a certain
minister, sitting right here now, come to me and told me and had me at
his home, a very precious brother. I don't say it 'cause he's sitting
here, but you're all precious brethren. If I didn't think that, I'd
tell you, "Let's you and I get this thing straightened out between us,
first." See? That's right. See? I love you all, and I want to hear it
in the spirit of tolerance to the Bible (You see?) to--to help. See?
This brother had me to his house to... a certain woman, and that woman
was wrong. And this... I never seen the woman but I heard it on tape,
her give an interpretation of tongues, and telling something. You could
pick it up right then.
535-150 One day, to another
minister, and I--or the same person, we set on a stump, squirrel
hunting, and talked of it. And both the ministers, present now, knows
how that turned out. See, just, you watch.
When you ministers are correcting someone about a gift, when you're
correcting them, are Scripturally correcting them, and they get
offended, remember, it wasn't the Spirit of God; 'cause the Spirit of
God cannot be offended by His Word. He comes to His Word. See, he's
always willing. A real saint of God wants to toe the mark. Yes, sir.
I want to be corrected. I want the Holy Spirit to correct me in things
that I'm doing that's wrong. I don't want nothing substitutionary. I--I
want the real thing or nothing, just let me alone, don't--don't let me
have anything at all. See? 'Cause I'd rather do that than to bring a
reproach on the Christ.
535-153 And I wouldn't teach
anything; I wouldn't say anything 'less the Scripture...
And if some brother, some Christian brother would see me teaching
something wrong, I'd appreciate it if he'd call me over to one side
after the service, and say, "Brother Branham, I'd like to come to your
room and talk to you; you're in error upon something." See? I'd--I'd
sure appreciate that, brother, 'cause I want to be right. I want it.
Now, all of us want to be right; that's why we want to--we want to
speak these things. And they got to come through the Scripture (You
see?) to make the Scripture tie together.
536-156 Now, the speaking in
tongues should be... Now, a little later on... Now, let it go right now
for a while. See, I'd advise you just let it go and let it be. To you
ministers now, you pastors, just let it go until these babies get just
a little bit older. Now, maybe sooner or later, if it's the enemy
that's trying to deceive that person, it'll show up. We're not too sure.
Now, after this, before you start this, get some Spirit of wisdom in
there, some discernment of spirits (You see?) to find out. The first
thing, you know, you begin to notice that somebody's begin to see that
there's a little something wrong; that's discernment. Then, and baby
that a little while. See? Then when you see the discernment getting
wrong, then correct that. And if that thing... If it's of God, he'll
stand correction with the Word. See?
536-158 Say, for instance, I'm going to say we spoke in tongues, somebody, we're... This is a--a gifted bunch of men. And Leo raised up and spoke in tongues, and--and a brother here, Willard, give the interpretation. All right. Now, I want to say Brother Neville and Brother Junie and Brother Willard Collins was the discerners. See? Now, because Leo spoke... Now, we're just here in like in a little saints' meeting, a gifts meeting, and Leo spoke and Willard give the interpretation here, and he said, "THUS SAITH THE LORD, Wednesday night there's coming a woman in here, and she's going to--she's going to be violent. Tell Brother Branham not to rebuke her, because she's insane. But tell him to take her over to the corner, because it was in a corner where she did a wicked thing one time and a certain thing taken place." See? That sounds very good, doesn't it? See? All right.
536-159 Now, but the first thing,
you know, in the Old Scripture, no matter what the prophet said or what
anybody else said, it was tested by the Urim Thummim first. See, it
went to the Word. And if them lights didn't flash, they let it alone.
See?
And the first thing now, let's take it back to the Word. Now, this man
spoke in tongues, sound all right. This one interpreted, sounded all
right. But the Word said, "Let it be judged by two or three judges
first." Take it to the Urim Thummim.
Now, first thing, Willard Collins says, "It was of the Lord." Junie
says, "It's of the Lord--Lord." That's two out of three. All right,
it's put on a piece of paper; it's spoke out right here in this church.
Then when the people who sees it read before it ever happens, and then
see it happen, they say, "Brother, that's God. See, that's God."
But what if it don't happen, then what happens? See? (Now, we're going
to get to another thing I could hit right here, "Is all prophecy
fully--all interpretations and messages prophecy?") Now, just a minute.
Now, what if it don't happen? Then Leo has spoke in a false spirit; he
gave a false interpretation; and you gave a false judgment. Then get
that thing out of you. You don't want that. That's wrong. Leave it
alone. That's the Devil. See? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
"I ain't a preacher, but I'm an--I'm an interpreter. See, I'm an
interpreter, Lord, I--I'm not a preacher. I..." Brother Leo say, "Lord,
I'm not a preacher, but I--I got a gift of tongues, and the Devil upset
me on that. God, take that thing away from me." You say, "Lord, You've
give me the spirit of discernment; I've seen You do it so many times,
how did it happen? Father, clean me out. What happened?" You see, there
you are; then you've got it real.
537-163 See, that's a regular
saints' meeting. I think that's what it was in the Bible, 'cause Paul
said, "If one prophesies and something being prophesied, something
be--and something be revealed to one set; let him hold his peace until
this one speaks first, then he may speak. And you all may prophesy one
by one." Now, that couldn't be in a regular meeting, you know that,
each one couldn't... the gifts...
Now, to be sure that it's of God (See?), 'cause if it's just
foolishness it ain't of God. If it doesn't come to pass, it's not of
God. See? It's got to come to pass. And--and therefore in our churches
(You see?), brother, we got a solid church then (See?), where nobody
can say that anything is ever said or done...
537-165 Look what it puts me
before, when I'm up there before the public. Look at that. What about
one error on that? See? Because I trust Him. See? I trust Him. Someone
say, "You afraid of a mistake, Brother Branham." No, no, huh-uh, ain't
afraid of a mistake. I believe Him. He is my Protection. I'm ordained
to do this, so I'll stay right there.
If God's ordained you to do something, then He's your Protection. See,
He will protect you. If He's sent you, He'll back up your word. You're
an ambassador then. You're ambassador with the gift of tongues; you're
ambassador with the gift of interpretation; you're ambassador with the
gift of discernment, the three of you. See what I mean? Then what have
you got? You got a solid church. You wouldn't fear standing yet no more
than yesterday.
538-167 Here I was in a meeting
down here. A little old English boy from England had come ever here,
was trying to commit suicide. Brother Banks come up there and said,
"He'd been down there four or five days." I had a lot of things to do,
but he said, "The boy's going to commit suicide." The Waterview Hotel
down there was telling me about the condition of that lad.
And I went into the room to pray for him. I come back out, and I said,
"Now, Brother Banks, I've never seen the man or know nothing about him,
but I'm going to tell you what's wrong with him 'fore I get there." Is
that right, Brother Banks? And when we got there, the Holy Spirit come
right down and told him what done it, and an about him, and where he'd
been, and all about his life. He just dropped over, nearly.
538-169 "Are you afraid of a
mistake, Brother Branham, you tell a man something like that?" How
about on the platform, tell a man he's living untrue to his wife, got a
baby by another woman? He'll throw you in the penitentiary. You better
be right. See? See? Don't be afraid, if it's God. But if you're not
afraid... If--if you don't know it's God, then keep still till you know
it's God. Is that right? Be sure you're right and then go ahead.
Now, this is hard teaching, brother, but you're my brothers.
You're--you're--you're young ministers that's coming on, and I'm an old
man, going to leave one of these days. See? And so you be sure
it's--it's right.
538-171 Coming out of the room of
the... Maybe I'll catch this a little later up here. A boy... Well,
I'll say part of it now. Yesterday, Brother Banks and I, real busy,
been (oh, my) as hard as I could, and I--I wouldn't tell you what I was
going to do on this meeting. Leo and Gene and a bunch of us was going
to go over there, and brethren, and say we was going pig hunting, hog
hunting. They got the five days of javelina hog hunting in Arizona,
after the meeting's over. Our meeting closes; we go to Phoenix for one
day, and got to wait five days before we have another, four days 'fore
they have another meeting of anywhere. We got to be right there at
Arizona. Well, it happens to be at just that time javelina hog season's
open.
So I wanted to go shoot my little rifle in, to see if it was in all
right. Banks was going with me. We started out the gate, started out
the gate. Here come a man walking right in over top of that sign
(See?), said, "Please don't ask for Brother Branham."
539-173 See, reason they do that...
It's not for people that's sick. Mine, that's...?... Ask Banks, he
lived next door to me. People come day and night and everything else,
with sick children, everything. We never turn a person like that down.
But...
And they called me, Leo and them, from out there at the trailer, and
Jim and them, "There's somebody here with a sick baby. A man's here
with cancer." We lay aside everything and take off for him.
539-175 Last night I was called
into a hospital room where somebody called me, and the man wouldn't
even let me come in after I got there (See?), somebody else just
enthused. But that's all right, I go anyhow. See? 'Cause it's my duty
to go (See?), try to help somebody.
Well, that's not what that sign's for. But this man, just as we was
getting in the car, and Brother Banks knows that I had to... I waited
in that house somehow. There was somebody come in at Brother Banks that
held him up. And no sooner got there, I was held up. Then as soon as we
grabbed our rifle and got--started to get in the car, here come a man
walking right in. He walked up there.
And I was just getting ready to tell him go out and call that number
out there (at the BUtler 2-1519) over at that sign. I said, "We're in a
hurry."
Said, "I suppose you're in a hurry, sir."
I said, "My name..."
First I walked up, he said, "How do you do?" And I seen that he didn't
know who I was.
I said, "My name is Branham."
He said, "You're Brother Branham?"
I said, "I am."
And he said, "I--I'm... I wanted to meet you, Brother Branham." Said,
"I see you're fixing to leave."
I said, "Yes, sir, I am."
He said, "I know you're in a hurry."
I said, "I am right now, sir."
And he said, "Well, I just wanted to speak to you a few minutes."
And I was just going to tell him; and the Holy Spirit said, "Take him
in the room; you can help him." Now, there, that changes everything.
The gun's just laid aside, and everything like that. God's work's
first. See? And he said...
I said, "Come, go with me." I said, "I'll be back after while, Brother
Banks."
He said, "It's about my soul, Brother Branham."
I said, "All right, come in."
Went through the house, Meda said, "Ain't you gone yet?"
I said, "No, no, no; it's somebody out here." I said, "Keep the kids
back in the other room." I took him in the little den room, set down.
No sooner set down...
That man was in church last night. Or did he come, Banks? Did you...
Yeah, well, he was to come last night. He was just...
540-185 First thing, the Holy
Spirit begin to tell him who he was, what he'd done, what happened down
through his life, everything about it (See?), just right on, telling
him everything. Banks is a witness. Never opened his mouth and said but
about two words to me; and there It come telling him, said, "You've
been a vagabond; you really live in Madison. You just come from
Evansville; Indiana. You've been down there in this Bible school, a
cult, got all mixed up. You just come to Louisville a few minutes ago.
There was a man, and a man told you (that you set and eat with him),
told you to come over here and see me, and straighten you out of
trouble." I said, "That's THUS SAITH THE LORD."
The man just setting, batting his eyes, looking at me, said, "Yes, sir."
I said, "Stunned you, didn't it?"
He said, "It did."
I said, "You believe the Holy Spirit?"
He said, "I want to, sir."
And I said, "You want me to tell you what you're thinking about?"
He said, "Yes, sir." And I told him. He said, "And brother, that's the
truth."
And I said, "Change your thoughts."
He said, "All right, I have."
I said, "This is what you're thinking about."
He said, "That's right. That's right."
I said, "Now, you don't need a vision; you just need straightened out."
I told him something there that you wouldn't want me to tell. If it was
on you, you wouldn't. It's some bad thing that was horrible, so you
wouldn't want me to tell it if it was on you. And I don't tell what the
Lord shows me on people. So I just said, "All right, you'll do it?"
He said, "I will."
I said, "Be on your road."
541-190 We was in there about not
over ten minutes, wasn't it, Brother Banks? About between seven and ten
minutes. Walked back out, come back down the road, and going down the
road, he and I and Banks and my little boy, Joe, I believe it was,
riding along together, going down the pike. He turned around to me; he
said, "Mister, I want to ask you a question."
I said, "All right."
He said, "I'm a bit confused." He said, "How did you know all that
stuff on me?" See? Banks was setting there.
And I said, "Mister, did you ever hear of my visions and my ministry?"
He said, "I never knowed your name till about an hour ago. Somebody
told me, just said over there in Louisville, told me to come over here,
and I walked across the bridge." Is that right, Banks? He said, "I
never even knowed your name, knowed who you was."
I said, "In my ministry, it's a gift of God that He sent."
He said, "Then if that's--that's the way that is," said, "now I'm..."
Said, "I'm just all... I'm all right now." He said, "Everything's
gone." See? He said, "What it is, that was God speaking through you to
me."
I said, "Correctly."
He said, "Now, I understand in the Bible that... One time I read in the
Bible," and said, "Jesus spoke to His disciples." Which he meant "the
people," you see? Said, "Spoke to His disciples and He told them the
things that they were thinking of." See? Perceiving their thoughts is
where he was getting to. He said, "And He said it was His Father that
was speaking through Him."
I said, "That's right."
He said, "Now, now, the Father then just used you to speak through you
to me, to tell me these things and get me to believe what you told me
was the truth."
I said, "Was it the truth?"
He said, "Yes." Said, "Then it has to be God."
542-198 And I said, "Brother, you
know more about it now (me and Banks was remarking) than some that's
been in the meeting for ten years and still don't." Just that--that
man... Now, that is what that is. See?
And the Spirit (orderly) in tongues is prophecy to be used during the
service?
No. It should be used on this way, and then told in the service. But
for this time, for this present time, let them speak. Now, if it goes
to getting out of hand, then it ain't, you have to watch that. Now,
sometimes it could be God. And those little fellows, just like a little
kid trying to walk; now, if he falls down four or five times... Now,
I've seen this since I've been here in church, and--and, well,
I'll--I'll just leave it like that. See? And but... You see? But what
of it, would you then say, "Brother Branham, why didn't you correct
this?" No, no.
When Billy Paul back there first started to walk, he was up and down,
and down more than he was up. But he didn't know how to walk. But I
believe he had a gift of walking. See? I let him walk a little while.
And then when he got to stumbling his big feet, I tell him about it
now. You see what I mean? See? Go along looking at something else and
popping and something, I say, "Pick up your feet, boy. Where you at?"
See? Now, that's--that's the difference. You see?
543-201 Now, let them--let them
stumble and let them block along a little while. Now, when you have to
correct them, if they resent it, then you know yourself it wasn't God.
'Cause the Spirit of God is subject. As you got here a little bit, "The
spirit of prophecy is subject to the prophet." See? That's right.
[Brother
Stricker says, "Brother Branham, I'd like some correction."--Ed.] All right, brother. [Many
times I've set in services and I've heard speaking in tongues and
interpretation, and most of the times I've felt very bad about it. And
I go home, and I'd seem as though I'd repent all the way. Was it
because I felt that it was not of God, or was it because it was out of
order?"--Ed.]
It could've been, brother, it could've been either one. See? I would
say... Now, this is--this is William Branham (See?), until I get into
the Scripture, why, it's still me. You see? Now, this I would say,
Brother Stricker, that it could be either one. It could be that it was
out of order; it could be that it was something wrong with you; it
could be that there was something wrong the person, something wrong
with the message, or anything would make you feel bad.
543-203 Now, now, let me just help
you a little bit, Brother Stricker, here. See? Always... Don't never
judge anything by its feelings. You see? Judge it by its attributes
(You see?), whatever it bears fruit. You see? 'Cause sometimes...
'Course we realize that there is things that you feel that spooky
feeling. I get it myself, and, boy, I start moving away right--right
easy, you know. But I don't say nothing. Just let it alone, 'cause I
don't know what it could be (You see?) until I know what it is.
Now, like a lot of people say, "Whew. Brother, I know I got the Holy
Ghost. Hallelujah. Praise God." And they still wouldn't have the Holy
Ghost. They could speak with tongues, and everything else, and shout
and dance in the Spirit, and still not have the Holy Ghost. Because the
rain falls on the just and the unjust. It's not by feelings; it's by
the fruit.
Say there's a... Remember my vision of that? How that... Hebrews 6 (You
see?) "The rain which cometh oft upon the earth is to water it, which
is dressed for, but thorns and thistles which is nigh unto rejection
whose end is to be burned."
543-207 Excuse me, I'll let a
little air in. I know you're all getting...?... and getting tired. So
that way, I'll have to hurry through these a little faster or I won't
get them. This has got... We're about at the basis of--of all of it in
right this handful here. But they'll... See, the...
Here's a--a field full of wheat. And in that field is sowed jimson
weed, cockleburs, or whatmore, weeds. Well, the drought is on. Now,
doesn't the jimson weed and the cocklebur get just as thirsty as the
wheat? And what kind of rain is a special rain falls on the wheat and
then a special rain falls on the cocklebur? Is that right? No, the same
rain falls on it. Is that right? The same Spirit falls on the hypocrite
that falls on the Christian, the same thing. But by their fruit... Did
that sink in, brother?
544-209 The evidence of the Holy
Ghost is the fruit of It, the fruit of the Spirit. Well, it... Well,
now, he say, "I'm a stem; I'm a cocklebur. I'm a stem the same as that
wheat's a stem." But what kind of a life is in you? The life that's in
it bears stickers, always fussing, and cutting up, and real mean, and
ill, and everything. See what I mean? Arrogant (See?), that's not the
fruit of the Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit is meekness, patience,
gentleness (See?), all that. See?
He can say, "Well, well, I can shout just as loud as you can. Bless
God, the Holy Ghost falls on me." That may be every speck true, but the
life that he lives doesn't back up what he's talking about. See? He was
a weed; he was a weed to start with.
Now, we get down on a big question now (See?) on election. You see? So
that's--it's... You have to be that. You understand that.
They was a cocklebur to start with; he was a wheat to start with. So
the drought was on; the rain fell on the just and unjust. Okay, got it?
544-212 [A
brother asks, "How about the fruits of a preacher, would that... that's
preaching the Word?"--Ed.]
That, the preacher? Still if he stood up there and preached the Word
like an Archangel (See?), understood the mysteries of the Bible, and
made a very good pastor, went and visited the people, and things like
that, he could still be lost. See? It's his fruit tells it every time,
brother. See? He, no matter how good he is or what he is, he must have
the Holy Spirit in his life. See?
Now, didn't Jesus say, "Many will come to Me in that day and say,
'Lord, have not I prophesied (preached) in Thy Name, and I worked
miracles in Your Name?'" He'd spoke with tongues; he'd done miracles,
give interpretation, the mystery things of God, and all those things
there; He said, "Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity; I never knew
you." See what I mean?
[Brother
Taylor asks, "How about the man bringing the--the wrong message? I
mean, he--he thinks he's right but he's preaching wrong."--Ed.]
Well, I believe that that man is sincere, like the brother that's
setting here wanted to go back over his--trace back these things like
that. If that man's elected of God, and he's ever brought before Truth,
he'll--he'll recognize It. See, "My sheep know My Voice." You under...
See what I mean, Brother Taylor? Is that what you're talking about? See?
545-216 Now, for instance, say
Brother Crase--Crase--Crase, say he was a Baptist preacher, and he
never knew nothing about the baptism of the Holy Ghost, neither did he
know any of these things, the gifts of the Spirit, and he was a good,
faithful Baptist preacher. See? But the first thing you know, this come
before him. And I believe that every child of God will be... Every age
will seine it till He gets him. The Kingdom can't come until the will
of God has been done. That's right. And not one will perish. You see?
Now, see, that's the way.
And the Kingdom of heaven's like a man throwing a net into the sea and
brought it forth. When he had, he had all kinds. He kept the fish, and
the turtles and terrapins went back in the water. He threw it again,
got some more, maybe got one fish. But He kept on seining till it was
all seined out. See what I mean now?
But that fish was a fish in the beginning. It was just put in the
Master's use; that was all, put them over in another pond where it was
better, clearer. But He's still seining in this frog pond till He gets
all the bass out of it. See what I mean? You get what I mean, Brother
Taylor. You ought to know by yours up there.
545-Q-113 All right, now:
113. Does he that... Does he at all times have control over the Spirit
as to when and how to act?
Yes, sir. Yes, sir, the Holy Spirit controls. Yes, sir. It has control
of you and you have control of It, and It'll never make you do anything
contrary to the Scripture. It'll make... "The Spirit does not misbehave
Itself unseemingly." That's right. Okay.
"From one who loves you..." Yeah, that's...?... All right, now we will
jump to another one here and see where we're at.
I think that had a basis. Now--now, when I'm calling these now, if
there's a question... Was there a question anymore on this? We all
understand it? We understand how we believe it now?
546-222 [A brother says, "I got one question."--Ed.] Go right ahead. On this here yet? Okay. ["Yes, on that one there. I kind of hesitated, but..."--Ed.] Don't hesitate, this is--this is... ["You were talking about the man that's preaching, and if he's not preaching the message that Christ brought forth, and regardless of what happens in his ministry. When he comes in contact with the Truth and he rejects It, then what?"--Ed.] He's lost. Excuse me just a minute for... ["In reference to predestination or ordaining him to come into the world?"] That's right. That's right. See? ["Then, as it was, he wasn't to be that way?"--Ed.] Wasn't to be that way in the beginning. See? "They went out from us because they wasn't of us."
546-223 For instance, like this,
it's the same thing in Hebrews 6. See? People misinterpret that
Scripture so much; they think it's impossible. He said, "It's
impossible for those which were once enlightened and made partakers of
the Holy Ghost, if they shall fall away." See, they just don't get It.
He says, "It's impossible for those which were once enlightened and
partakers of the Holy Ghost, seeing that they should fall away, to
renew themselves again to repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves
the Son of God afresh and put Him to an open shame; counted the Blood
of the covenant wherewith He was crucified with an unholy thing, done
despite to the works of grace."
Well, to me, it's a revelation. Sure. It's just like Acts 2:38, and
Acts--and Matthew 28:19. You just have to catch It. You see?
Now, look, here it is, the same thing. Well, now, he's speaking to
Hebrews. See? Now, read on down through the chapter, far as them goes
ahead and say, "For it's a fearful thing to fall in the--fall in the
hands of the living God." Now, here's a man just like that borderline
believer. Here, here's a... Here, the same thing was here, perfect
example I see in my mind.
547-226 God called Israel out of
Egypt. All these people come forth; every one of them was delivered,
crossed over the Red Sea into the wilderness. Is that right? The Red
Sea... When they got ready, listened to Moses' message, started to
march (justification), they turned around, started here.
They come to the Red Sea (the Blood), and went through the Red Sea, and
behind them all the task masters was laying dead. This is just about
three days from the promised land right then. See? That's all they was:
less than forty miles. See? So there they are, just two days would have
put them over there good.
That's what I aim to preach at Phoenix in a few days from now, at the
Business Men's meeting, "Staying on this Mountain." But He kept them
right there for forty years, 'cause they... Uh-huh! See?
547-229 So they come to this and
they looked back (sanctified), "Oh, hallelujah. Praise God. Glory to
God. Hallelujah. There lays the old thing that once bothered me is
dead. The old cigarettes I once smoked is gone. The old liquor I used
to drink is all in the red sea of the Blood of Jesus Christ. O glory to
God. Hallelujah."
Every one of them come up here to take Canaan now, crossed Jordan.
Well, he took a representative out of each tribe. Is that right? And he
sent them over. Well, some of them said, "Ah, ah, ah, we can't do it.
No, it--it... Why, we look like grasshoppers up side of them." See?
547-231 "Now, what kind of a church
would I preach to if I taught that Holy Ghost and all that stuff like
that? Why, I'd have empty seats. My Methodist people would walk out, my
Baptist people, my Presbyterian." Let them walk out. They were goats to
begin with You want sheep. See? See? You're not pastoring goats. Pastor
sheep. What the use of pastoring goats when...?... their time and
there's sheep to be pastored? See? And here--here you are over here.
See? I always said I'd preach to four posts and preach the truth in the
church. Yes, sir, come over here.
But see now, what's he done? They come back, and Joshua and Caleb, two
percent, or is that kind of percentage... two out of... two twelfths of
them, two twelfths. Well, there was twelve of them, that'd be two out
of twelve, two twelfth of them believed It. They go right on over into
the promised land, said, "Boy, this is a good place to be." Old Joshua
and Caleb, boy, they was trusting the Word; God give it to them, said
"that's yours." They go over, they whacked off a big bunch of grapes,
and here they come pulling her back like this. "Come on, fellows. This
is a wonderful place. Take a bite," (See?), grapes about that big
around.
548-233 And oh, man, they seen
them, said, "Ah, we can't do it." When they went back, they said, "No,
brother, this Moses has done brought us out here in the wilderness,"
this Holy Ghost (You see?) which he represented, "done brought us out
here in the wilderness. And here we are, our ministry's ruined, and we
couldn't do a thing like that," go back. See? They which were once
enlightened, justified by faith, sanctified... See, they come across
this second altar and look over into the promised land. "We which were
once enlightened and have been--have tasted of the heavenly gifts..."
See, tasted of it. They brought it back: "We see that it's right. We
actually see it." "Tasted of the heavenly gifts, made a partakers of
this Thing (You see?), this Holy Spirit, partook of It."
"That's good, boy, look at that--that man. Why, I know he was blind;
now he can see. Look at that old... Boy, what happened to that fellow?
Whoever thought that kid out there without no education, yonder he
stands with the Fire in the world." You see? See, see?
548-236 "And then fall away (See?),
and as to renew themselves, go back again to repentance, go on back to
preach repentance instead of that which He said the first place there
of let us... You know, about laying again the foundation of dead works
to repentance, and so forth. We will, God willing." You see? "See,
we'll do that. We'll go back and lay this foundation back then, but go
back unto repentance themself, to repent of it for ever being up there.
'I'm sorry I was ever up there,' and count the Blood of the covenant
wherewith he was sanctified with as though It was an unholy thing, and
done despite to the works of grace." He's gone, brother. That's all.
He's finished. See?
Well now (See?), it's impossible for an elected child to do that. He
ain't going to do that. "My sheep know My Voice." If it's called in
Canaan or wherever it's at, they're going. See? "My sheep know My
Voice."
[A
brother asks, "And they need to believe in Acts 2:38 too, don't
they?"--Ed.]
That would take that, every bit of the Scripture, take It all in.
That's exactly right, brother.
548-Q-114 114. Are there two,
are--are there two different types of Bible tongues? Is there a
difference in tongues spoken in private prayer and in the church where
interpretation is required? On the day of Pentecost the tongues were
understood by men of different nations; but in I Corinthians 14:2,
unknown tongues spoke unto God, not unto men. I Corinthians 13:1
indicates to such men... (C-o-r, I guess that's Corinthians 13,
what's... )... to such man and the others of angels.
Oh, yes. See? Well, it... Now, brother, ever who you are, you--you've
answered yourself here. See, see?
Are there two different tongues? (There's many different tongues. See?)
Are there two different tongues in the Bible, two different tongues?
On the day of Pentecost every nation under heaven was there with
tongues. See? All right.
And is there difference between the tongues spoken in private prayer
and in the churches where interpretation is required?
Yes.
549-241 Paul spoke over here also in the Corinthians where you was asking here, and he said, "There are tongues of angels and there is tongues of men." Now, tongues of angels is when a man's praying to him--to him and God alone. But when he's speaking a--a language, it's to be interpreted in the church for edification of the church. "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifies himself; but he that speaks--he that prophesies edifies the church." So he said, "I'd rather speak five words with understanding than ten thousand in an unknown tongue, except, unless there be interpretation." Then it's--it's spoken then by prophecy which is edifying. See what I mean?
549-242 Now, the... Now, there's
two different tongues: men and angels. See? And Paul said, "Though I
speak with tongue of men and angels," (See?), both men and angels, both
of those tongues, the one that cannot...
Now, that's where the Pentecostal people, tongues-evidence people that
say--told me, he said, "Now, Brother Branham, you're all mixed up."
Said, I said, "Well, if you get it according to Acts 2:4, then
everybody heard you speak in the language that they were born in."
Oh, he said. And "No, no." he said.
I said, "Sure. Yes, sir."
Said, "Now, Brother Branham, you're all mixed up." Said, "You're
talking about the..." Said, "There's tongues of angels. That's the Holy
Spirit angel that comes down and speaks to you."
Now, it sounds good. See? It sounds like it could be a lot of truth,
but it ain't all the truth. When Satan told Eve, "Surely you'll not
die..." that was a... He told her a lot of truth, but that wasn't
truth. See?
Now, said, "Men and angels, and the angel he was speaking of was..."
550-248 Now, let's look how it
won't jive with Scripture. See? Now, it won't cooperate, I mean to say.
Pardon me, I didn't mean to say jive with Scriptures. I mean cooperate
with Scriptures, or follow, coordinate with Scriptures is the best word.
"Now, the man speaking with angels' tongues," he says, "that's the
tongues of the Holy Ghost," said--he said, "now, when you, we, they
received the Holy Ghost..."
I said, "Did... When, where'd you receive It at?"
Well, he told me exactly the spot, the minute and the hour. I don't
doubt but what he did. See? I have no... I'm not his judge. See? He
said, "That's where I spoke it." He knowed exactly the place. Said,
"Something happened to me."
I said, "I believe it. See? But still that wasn't the evidence of the
Holy Ghost to you, son."
"Oh, yes." Said, "That--that was it."
And "No."
He said, "Now, look, I want to tell you something, brother."
I said, "Did the people in your audience, that church there in
Indianapolis where you said you received It, did those people hear you
speak in English telling them of the resurrection and the power of God
and everything?"
He said, "Why, no. I spoke in--in unknown tongues."
I said, "You never got it according to Acts 2:4, 'cause every--wasn't
one word unknown. 'We hear every man in our own language.'"
551-254 "Oh," he said, "Brother
Branham, I see where you're confused." He said, "You see," he said,
"there's tongues that's tongues of angels. When you receive the Holy
Ghost," said, "then you speak in tongues and nobody has to interpret
that; that's--that's the Holy Ghost speaking. See? But then you have a
gift of tongues, and that's to be interpretation."
I said, "Then you've got the cart before the horse. On the day of
Pentecost they got the cart before the horse. Before they got the Holy
Ghost, unknown tongues, they spoke in tongues that was understood."
See? So you read it...
551-256 There is two different
tongues. Tongues of angels, that's the man in private prayer out yonder
somewhere speaking to God, speaking to God in angelic tongues. I could
just call you a case right now, but I haven't got time. You remember
when the woman come to the auditorium there, in where Doctor Alexander
Dowie's from, Zion. Remember me down there? And Billy come after me
down there to get me to go to the meeting; I said, "Billy, go on back."
I...
He said, "What you crying about? Somebody been here?"
I said, "No, sir. You go on back; tell Brother Baxter to preach
tonight."
And I got down on the floor and I said, "Lord, what's the matter with
me?"
And all of a sudden I heard Somebody at the door, speaking in other
languages. I thought... It was German; I thought, "Well, that fellow's
come up to get him a..." I stopped, you know, praying; I listened at
him standing there like this. And I thought, "Well, how that guy will
ever understand that?" 'Cause I knowed the man that run that motel,
about five miles out of the city, you know. I had to get out there, so
many people around, small town. I said, "Well, that's strange. Huh."
And I said, "There... Well, boy, did you ever hear a... what... That
guy don't even get his breath, hardly (See, I was thinking that.), hard
as he was speaking." Well, I said, "Well, that... why, it was me." I
just kept real still; he didn't say any, just kept real still. After
while He got through speaking, and when It did, it felt like I could
run through a troop and leap over a wall.
552-260 And I went out and Billy
was going out the gate and I hollered at him, "Wait a minute."
He come back; he'd been drinking a soda pop. And he said, "Daddy,
what's the matter?"
I said, "Wait just a minute, just a minute, I'm going with you."
I started washing my face real quick. He said, "What's the matter?" He
knows better than to talk to me, going to the meeting. He said, "What's
the matter?"
I said, "Nothing, nothing, nothing, not at all. Just go ahead to the
meeting."
We went on to the meeting, Brother Baxter was setting there playing,
"Nothing between my soul and the Saviour." He come in, he said, "Whew!
Thought you wasn't coming."
I said, "Sh..." Went on up and just started preaching.
552-266 When I got through, about
time I got through preaching, well, boy, somebody like to took the back
of the building, back there in that big auditorium. Run an extension
mike back there, and there was a woman back there just walking up and
down that aisle, shouting hard as she could shout.
Come to find out, she had TB, and they left Twin Cities, St. Paul; the
ambulance wouldn't bring her because they was afraid she would burst
her lungs. The doctor said, "Anything, her lungs was like honeycombs,"
if they ever broke she'd be dead. That'd be all." And some saints took
an old '38 Chevrolet car, and took the back seat and fixed it up, put
her in there, and was on the road over. And they hit a little bump or
something another down there, and she started hemorrhaging, and she
just started spurting the blood right out, and she... It was going
through her nose and everything like that. She got weaker and weaker,
and finally... She didn't want to die in the car; she told them to stop
and put her on a grass plat.
They picked her out. And they was all standing over her, praying, and
all of a sudden she said something struck her and up she got. And away
she went, shouting down that road, as hard as she could. Here she was
at church, just walking up and down those aisle.
I said, "Sister, what time was that?" Just exactly the same time the
Holy Spirit was speaking through me. What was it? Gifts.
553-270 What's that--that old
opossum laying up there at the gate to be prayed for? A ignorant
animal, not even a soul, don't know right from wrong (See?), hasn't got
a soul, got a spirit, no soul to it...
What was it? The Holy Spirit making intercessions. God sent a gift to
the earth; the Holy Spirit just couldn't wait any longer, so He just
come took me over and begin to speak back Himself like that, back
Hisself, making intercessions Himself. And as we checked the time, at
the very same minute that she--they put her out on a plat like that,
they wanted to see... 'Cause they knowed she was dying; they'd have to
say what time she died. It was that very minute that the Holy Spirit
fell upon me up there and begin to make intercessions, utterance,
words, can't understand them (See?), like that, giving utterance.
That's the Holy Spirit speaking.
I didn't have to know that. See, I didn't. That was her, maybe her
angel. We're going to get to that in a few minutes (See?), that come
over there and gave that message. You see?
Now--now, that's--that's right. There's two different tongues, one of
them's speak...
553-274 Is there a question? All right, trying to know what God is saying. You see? Now, I've... I'd say, Brother Stricker, in that, in regards to that, try to not to think about that. See? Just let the Spirit do the speaking Itself. Don't try to understand it (See?), 'cause just yield yourself farther to the Spirit. See? 'Cause you're trying to--to--to say, "Hey, what are you saying?" See? "Hey, you talking to me? Huh?" You see, he's... See, he's trying...
553-Q-115 115. Now, is it all right
for a person to speak with tongues when praying for others about the
altar without interpretation?
Let me see what I put down here; I have...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] If there is no interpreter,
let them hold their peace. In I Corinthians the 1st chapter--the 14th
chapter and the 28th verse. Who's got a Bible?
[A
brother reads the following Scripture: If there be no interpreter, let
him keep silence in the church--Ed.]
All right. Now, if there be no interpreter anytime in the church,
anywhere in the church, keep silent if there's no interpreter. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
554-277 At the altar, the only thing, that someone... Many times you hear of people going to the altar. I heard a precious brother just recently at the altar, just go down and shake somebody on the back, and then speak in tongues themselves, speaking it like they're trying to show them what to do. See? That's kind of artificially bringing the Holy Spirit, trying to, to the people. Don't do that. See? The thing to do is just let that person alone. Let them raise up their hands until the Holy Spirit comes in. You see? See? So it--it's--it's a wrong... No, they should be keep silent in the church. You see?
554-278 [A
brother asks, "Brother Branham?"--Ed.] Yes, brother. ["Say
a person was in a service and--and at the close of the service, usually
whenever a message will come through, the person that has the gift,
they will be able to tell, or can they be able to tell the difference
between the--the angel--the tongue of the angel or the message that
comes through it?"--Ed.]
Now, let's see. Now... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]...
long as they come in and they write that thing out, lay it on my desk.
See? And I'd read it right out like this. But when I walked in that
room there, brother, that was all of it. See?
554-280 And before they come in
here, they'd stand back here and everybody just as quiet as could be.
And the sister'd be there, Sister Irene, there at the--at the altar,
playing--or there, playing "Down at the Cross." We wouldn't... Ushers
just walked back and forth. They see anybody talking, they'd say, "Sh,
sh, sh." See? And if kids got... They'd set down real sweet and they'd
say, "The house of the Lord, honey. You shouldn't. You should behave
now in the house of the Lord."
And the man and the wife, and all of them, they let them hang their
coats up and things like that. Somebody here at the door to see them
just as soon as the door opened. The... And everything ready to go, you
know, put the church right. Everybody get them a seat and see that they
set down.
555-282 And I was in the room,
praying, been in there probably since two or three o'clock that
afternoon. Nobody bothered me. I went down there with my message.
And then just at the moment to start, the song leader started a song,
"Let us turn to hymn number so-and-so," like, "Down at the Cross where
my Saviour died," on like that, you know, and get that going like that.
Then when they sing about two specials... We never put too much time in
singing; it's the Word. If they have a hymn-singing, that's what they
have these regular hymn-singings for. We're--we're... The Word's the
main thing the people come there for; it's the house of correction.
555-284 And then maybe the
associate, like Brother George, Brother George DeArk, get up and offer
prayer. And then we'd have a special, like a solo or something like
that. And then it was time, somebody'd let me know it was time to come
out. If it was, all right, I'd come out freshly under the anointing.
See?
Well, maybe that week they'd had a meeting somewhere here in the
church, had their own meeting. Maybe before the service ever opened
that night, they had a meeting. And here it was... I got it here, and
say, "It is written here on this paper that there will come a certain
storm through this country next week," or something, thing--you know,
something like that will take place. "It was written, spoke in tongues,
and interpreted by two saints of the church here, Brother So-and-so and
Brother So-and-so. Two witnesses of it gave record here; they have
their names signed on here. And it was recorded, 'It would be of God,
it's so-and-so and so-and-so.'" That's my first part.
555-286 Then I'd say, "All right,
we'll prepare for this; everybody be in prayer. See? Now, is there a
special request, everybody?" You know. "Let us pray." Stood and prayed.
Right straight to the Word, right on to the Word.
Then immediately after the service was over, the altar call was made.
See? The altar call was what we played on heavy, the altar call: get
the people to the altar. And then after that altar call was over,
perhaps then I'd pray for the sick. See, just something like that. The
service was all took up, 'cause the spirit of the prophets is subject
to the prophet.
556-289 That's what I was thinking
of... You remember the night when I saw the vision when the Angel come
walking to me? I was sitting there in the room, thinking, about, oh,
way in the night, saying, "The spirit of the prophets is... How could
that be?" I looked at that Light flashing, and here He come walking
right down through there where I was at. See? That's when He
commissioned me right there (See?) to these meetings.
Now, no, it's the--the person that's giving the message... That was
your question, I believe, "The person that's giving the message, would
he... Is--is the person giving the message, would he know it was the
Angel of the Lord or not?"
[A
brother says, "No, the question was, you say there is the tongues of
angels..." Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] I don't think he could.
Now, it's the way we got it now. But, see, when we get the way we
should be, where you have a regular meeting for that, let...
556-292 See, each one of them is a ministry. Say, you speak in tongues; he interprets; and he speaks in tongues; he prophesies; you're just laity here in the church; but yet you got a ministry and you got something. You're trying to help the Kingdom of God, do something for it (See?), and so you brethren meet together. That's the reason pastors, like this, we meet together; we got something in common. You brethren meet together, study the Scriptures, and speak in tongues and interpret, and give the messages. You see?
556-293 But now, if this man, then,
if he realizes... He's been to the meeting; he's got a gift of tongues.
Well, he gets to the meeting; he speaks in tongues but no
interpretation is given, the interpreter don't get it.
[A
brother asks, "Would you say then that those people edifies the Body,
but the offices such as pastors, teachers, and that, perfect the
Body?"--Ed.]
Yes, that's what it's for, the perfection. See? These are given for
perfection. You see? I believe, the--the--the Spirit are given to
perfect, perfection of the church.
556-295 Now, they--these people
that speak, they are Spirit-filled, there's no doubt. Now, here's a
man, maybe he's speaking in here in the meeting, and he gives... Now,
he's right before the interpreter (See?), and yet nobody gets the
interpretation; there's just something wrong. The interpreter can't
help that. See? He--he has to interpret by inspiration the same as the
one speaking that. And he might have a real gift of speaking in
tongues, but he hasn't got the gift of tongues, a language. See, he...
And then the thing for him to do is, when he uses this tongue, then he
sees... Now, what he--he ain't trying... If he's trying to stuff
hisself out again, he's a stuffed shirt. He ain't... He--he's--he's
wrong to begin with (You see?); he'll never go nowhere. See, you think,
"Well, bless God, that guy just don't want to interpret my tongues.
That's all there is to it." Now, see, he's wrong to begin with. Right
there he's got--he's got the wrong motive, the wrong objective. See?
557-297 But if he's sweet and
humble with, say, "Well, maybe the Lord didn't want to use me in His
service. But yet I... He just blesses my soul. He wants to edify me, to
know that I'm close to Him when I speak in tongues. So I'll walk out in
the apple orchard, 'O God.' And the power begins to fall on me, and I
start speaking in tongues. I come in refreshed. You see?" "Oh, you see,
You're speaking to me, Lord; You're just keeping me lined up by
speaking in tongues." See? "And, Lord, today I ought to have spoke to
that man. Forgive me for it, Lord. I--I--I passed over something I
oughtn't to. Father, please forgive me." And directly, away it goes
speaking in tongues. "Ah, whew, feel better about it now."
You see, that's all right. See, your--your gift is not to be used in
the church, but it's to edify you. "He that speaketh in an
unknown--unknown tongue edifies himself." See? Now, if there's no
interpreter, then... See what I mean? See, that's it. So he wouldn't
know himself. He just... But he'll know when he's wrong. Now, now you
just have to let it go together (You see?); that's the only thing you
can do till you get it separated. That's the reason I think it...
557-Q-116 116. Explains I Corinthians
14:5.
Who's got it right quick? One of you got it?
[Blank.spot.on.tape.
A brother reads I Corinthians 14:5:
... all spake with
tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that
prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret,
that the church may receive edifying--Ed.]
All right. "I would rather... I would that all of you spoke with
tongues." Paul's trying to say... Like the church, you--you be my
church. Some of Paul's churches wasn't as big as many the members as
what I got right here. That's right, sometimes ten or twelve. See, see?
Now, now he said, "I would that you all spoke with tongues." That stunt
you?
See, when the--the--the church that the--in Acts 19, I believe it had
about a dozen members in it (See?), just very little, missions. You
see? So it's always been in the minority. See? And I think it said and
there was about so many, a dozen men and women (You see?) in it.
558-302 Now, if you--you see here,
he said, "I would that you all spoke with tongues. I'd--I wished you
all would speak, all spoke with tongues, just get so full of the Holy
Ghost you'd just speak in tongues." But said, "I would rather you'd
prophesy; except it be for interpretation, there be an interpretation."
How does that read there? Who... Have you got it there, right. Let's
read it again. Now, listen.
[A
brother begins reading I Corinthians 14:5, "I would that ye all spake
with tongues..."--Ed.] Now,
hold that a minute, "I would that you would all speak with tongues." ["...
but rather that ye prophesied:..."--Ed.] "I'd rather you would all
prophesy." ["...
for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with
tongues,..."] Now,
hold it a minute.
Now, what is greater than he that prophesies? That's what you wanted me
to stop at?
[A
brother I was just saying, "That was a different...?..."--Ed.]
Yeah. See? Yeah. See? Now, here's where...
Now, you say for instance, now, we got two unlearned men among us
tonight. They don't know nothing about this, and I come in and you all
was... We start here in this meeting, and--and you just starts talking
in tongues, every one of you just talking in tongues, talking in
tongues, and talking in tongues, and talking in tongues. And well, what
is it? See, the unlearned man say, "Huh, they're all crazy." See? But
if one prophesies (See?), then he's saying something he can understand.
558-307 Now, go ahead and read the
rest of it now. [The
brother continues, "... except he interpret,..."--Ed.] There you are. Now,
"except," see? I--I'd... The ones that--the ones that's prophesying is
greater than he that speaks in tongues except this gives an
interpretation. Now, go ahead. See? ["...
that the church may receive edifying."--Ed.] There you are. See, the
church is edified.
Now, in other words, why, the church... This guy here... Here, this
many here is unlearned; you're just sitting among us tonight; we're
having this meeting. We're all in here seeking our--wanting to know
about the Lord, all of you just started speaking in tongues. Nobody
said nothing, just started speaking in tongues. "I want you... I'd...
That'd be fine," Paul said, "All of you spoke in tongues, it'd be
fine." But what if some of you prophesy, raise up and say, "THUS SAITH
THE LORD, 'There is a man sitting here, and he's a stranger among us.
His name is John Doe. He comes from a certain, certain place. He's left
his wife and four children there. He's here tonight because he's
seeking help. He was with a doctor today in Memphis, Tennessee. And he
said... The doctor told him he had cancer of the lungs. He's dying.'"
559-309 He said, "If all speak in
tongues and the unlearned come among you, he'd say... Then he will say,
'Aren't you all mad or crazy'? But if one prophesies and reveals the
secret of the heart, then they'll fall down, say, 'Truly God's with
you.'" See, that's...
Well, now, here. Now, you're speaking in tongues, but one gives the
interpretation, say, "THUS SAITH THE LORD," under the interpretation,
'There's a man setting among us, left his wife, was in Nashville
today,'" or Memphis, or whatever it was, "'and he's got lung cancer.
Come in here, and his name is John Doe,'" so-and-so like that. See?
559-311 "Except it be for
interpretation." See, then he gives edification. See? Then they'll
say... Then that guy will go out, say, "Let me tell you something:
don't tell me God's not with them people up there. Certainly. Them
people know me not at all." See?
So we want the gifts of prophecy plus the gifts of speaking in tongues.
But in speaking with tongues (See?) must have interpretation. And then,
when it's interpreted, it is prophecy. See? It is prophecy. Now, I've
got that question here in a minute, so I'll--I'll get to it just as
quick as possible. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
559-Q-117 117...?... Matthew 18:10.
[A
brother reads Matthew 18:10:
... that ye despise
not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their
angels--angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in
heaven--Ed.]
All right. Now, the brother, ever who you are, of course there's no
names, just little tickets (You see?) who said this. I'm sure I...
Now, you could take two ways of it. You see? But I think the
interpretation, if you just asked me, "Explain this," the way I
interpret this is this.
Now, you turn to II Corinthians, somebody, 5:1, it says this, "If this
earthly tabernacle be dissolved..." You know what it is. See? "If this
earthly tabernacle be dissolved, we have one already (You know.)
waiting." All right.
560-316 Now, now He would... If you
noticed, in Matthew 18:10, He was speaking about taking little
children. They was little children, little tots, three or four years
old, picked them up. "They brought unto Him children, child." Children
comes from the name of "child." A child is just a little--little
fellow, not an infant but just between that an a teen-ager. See? It's
not responsible yet for itself.
Now, He said, "Take heed that you don't despise." If you'd really take
the interpretation of that word is "mistreat." See, "To mistreat one of
those." Mistreat a child, you should never do that. They're children;
they don't know. See?
And now notice, said, "Because they--their angels always beholds My
Father's face which is in heaven." You see? In other words, "Their
angels, their--their messengers, their bodies, angelic bodies that
they'll go to if they die, are always before My Father's face in
heaven." See?
560-319 Now, "If this earthly
tabernacle be dissolved, we have one already waiting." Is that right?
That's a body.
Look here. If I just had time to go through these... 'Course, I know
I--I'm not going to have it. But here, let me just give it to you so
it's on the tape, and you'll get it anyhow.
Look, one night Peter was in prison. They had a prayer meeting down at
John Mark's house. See? And so the Angel of the Lord come in, that
Pillar Fire, a Light come down, and Peter thought he was dreaming when
he seen this Light come to him. It... The Bible said It was a Light.
See? And I believe It's the same One with us. See? He come down. And we
get in the same trouble, maybe the same thing would happen. See? And
come in there, and so He said, "Come, go with Me."
So Peter thought, "I'm dreaming now, so I'll just see what this dream
means." So he walked right on by the guards, and thought, "Uh-huh. Now,
we go on by, the door just opened by itself." Went out the next door,
opened by itself. Went through the city gates, and it opened by itself.
And he still thought he was dreaming. So when he stood out there, and
said, "Well, I'm free, so I'll just go down to John Mark's house and
have some fellowship."
561-323 They was back there, "O
Lord, send Your Angel, deliver Peter."
And about that time something went [Brother
Branham knocks--Ed.]. The little damsel went to the door and
said, "Who's there?" Raised up the little lattice, said, "Why, it's
Peter." So he went back, said, "Hey, you--you can stop praying now,
Peter's there."
They said, "Oh, my. Go ahead," said, "you're--you're--you're..." See?
[Brother
Branham knocks again--Ed.] Said,
"Open up. I'm coming in. See?" And so he said...
So he went back, said, "No, it--it's Peter at the door."
"Oh," they said, "they've cut his head off already; that's his angel at
the door (See?), his heavenly tabernacle, he done received it, if this
earthly one was dissolved, because it was waiting in heaven for him to
come to."
What I seen the other day in that vision, you know, crossed over. "If
this earthly tabernacle be dissolved, we have one."
And these little fellows who's done no sin as yet... You see?.. See?
561-329 When a baby is being--a
baby is being formed in a womb of a mother, soon as it's put there...
See, see? But first it's a spirit. As that spirit begins to take on
flesh, a little germ of life begins to take on flesh, and as soon as it
drops from its... Now, in the womb, it's a little, quivering, jerking
muscles. We know that. That's cells. Just like you take a horse hair
and put it in the water, it'll cap over and it'll move, and you touch
it and it'll jump. That's the way a baby is.
But as soon as it's borned in this world and breathes its first breath,
it becomes a living soul. See? Because as soon as the earthly body is
born into the world, there's a celestial body, or a spiritual body, to
take ahold of it. And as soon as this natural body is dropped, there is
a heavenly tabernacle waiting for it: "If this earthly tabernacle be
dissolved, there is a heavenly tabernacle waiting for it." Just as soon
as--as the baby's dropped into the earth in flesh, there's a spiritual
body waiting to receive it. And as soon as the spiritual body--the
natural body is dissolved, there's a spiritual body waiting yonder
(See?), a theophany we call it (See?), a theophany.
562-330 [A
brother asks, "Well, now, is that a... is that temporary, pending the
resurrection of this body?"--Ed.] Yeah. See? Yeah. Oh, yes. ["That's
the condition that we're going to live in until this
resurrection?"--Ed.] That's
right. See, see?
It's not revealed to sons of men yet. I believe... I--I know I saw it.
See? But I don't know what kind of a body it is, but I could feel them
just the same as I feeled your hands or anything else. 'Course this is
on tape, and you may be playing it years after I'm gone. See? But...
And that, whatever it was (See?), I was--I was holding those people and
catching them, and it was just as real as--as you're real, and yet it
wasn't... They didn't eat nor drink. There was no yesterday nor
tomorrow. See, it was eternity.
562-332 And now, when that
tabernacle... They left there in that body, they come back to the
earth, and that type of a body they had took on immortality. The--the
dust of the earth gathered into that theophany of somehow, and they
become human again, had to eat like they did in the garden of Eden.
See? "But if this earthly tabernacle be dissolved, we have one already
waiting."
So these little children that had no sin (See?), no sin yet, their
angels, their "bodies" (the one that Peter had come back in... ) see,
was waiting. "Beholding the Father's face, in Heaven," it's always
before Him; "they know it," there it is.
562-334 [A
brother says, "But it was a little bit difficult there where Jesus
said, in the first part of His resurrection, He said, 'Touch Me not,'
He had not yet ascended up. And then when He came in the room where
Thomas was, He says, 'Come over here and thrust your hand in My
side.'"--Ed.] That's
right, He hadn't ascended up yet. ["And
the difference of the two, where the one He told them not to touch Him,
and over there He told Thomas to come there."] He hadn't never ascended up
yet. You see? He... ["'For
I have not yet ascended to My Father.'"--Ed.]
That's right. See, He wasn't to be touched until He--after His
resurrection. He had come out from the earth. You see? He come out from
the earth and was walking among men, but He had not yet ascended. He
said... He told Mary; He said, "Don't touch Me."
She said, "Rabboni."
He said, "Touch... Don't touch Me, for I've not yet ascended to the
Father. But I ascend to My God and to your God, to My Father and your
Father."
And then that night, after He'd done went up before God, and had rose
from the dead, went up before God, coming back, He invited Thomas to
come touch His side. See, He had ascended up in before God. That's
right. Okay.
563-Q-118 118. Now, in I Corinthians
14, "Follow--follow after charity and desire spiritual gifts, but
rather that you may prophesy." Webster, saying, "prophesy": "to
foretell future events, especially by divine inspiration." Can a
message... Now, they... That--that's what Webster said and what
the--the brother asked. Can a message be called prophesy that does not
foretell future events?
No, sir. "Prophesy" is "to foretell." See? All right.
563-Q-119 119. Now, I Corinthians
14:27, I believe that all messages should be interpreted and that not
more than three messages in tongues should be given in any one service.
That's the Scripture. I've got it wrote down here. 'Course, we're
not... We're familiar with that and know that. You see? That's... Yes,
sir, it's--it should only be by the courses of three. That's in I
Corinthians 14 too. You see? That's right, "courses of three." Now, you
watch that in your meetings, brethren. Now, you'll--you'll find that
come up now; you'll find out that a lot of people gets enthused. And
don't say they haven't got the Holy Ghost now. But, you see, Paul went
down to set Corinthian church in order. We all know that, don't we? He
had to put it in order. And he said, "All things be done decently and
in order."
564-339 Now, if you noticed, Paul,
in going down, he always had trouble with the Corinthian church. He
never found him that way in... He never said nothing about it to the
Ephesian church; he could teach them eternal security. There's nothing
about eternal security in--in the--the Corinthian church. They were
always babies, trying, "One's got a tongue; one's got a psalm." Isn't
that right? See? And if you let your congregation get started on that...
Like Martin Luther, he got so filled with the Spirit till he spoke in
tongues. He said in his diary, he said, "I spoke with tongues," he
said, "but if I teach my people that," said, "they'll seek the gift
instead of the Giver." That was right. See? They'll be seeking the gift
instead of the Giver.
And that's what people get, and then they get all flusterated and
puffed up when they let them speak with tongues or something like that.
And if--if it ain't of God, then it won't--it'll be of naught. But we...
Now, the modern churches turn the whole thing out, but we don't. We
believe that it's God's gift and can be put in there by the Spirit of
God. How about that, Brother Roy? That's right. Yes, sir. Put in the
church. It belongs in the church. The gift of speaking in tongues
belongs there (See?) in the church of God.
564-343 Now, let's see now exactly
what his question was here. Said, that:
I believe that all messages... (That's right.)... should be
interpreted, and that by the courses of three.
That's right. See? Because if you let the... Now, let's say, for
instance, like you were having a meeting and we're setting in here
and--and... Now, what good would it do to let him speak in tongues, him
speak in tongues, him speak in tongues, him? Why, we'd be all so
confused we wouldn't even know what we was doing. See? By the courses
of three, let... like, Hollin, he's speaking in tongues, if he speaks
in tongues...
And there must be also an interpreter. Now, there can be one
interpreter unless you interpret your own tongue. Now, you... "Let him
that speaketh in unknown tongues also pray that he may interpret." He
can interpret his own tongues which is just as--just as lawful as it is
for some interpreter. But there must be one interpreter before tongues
can be... If you got a bunch of people speaking in tongues and there be
no interpreter, then pray yourself that you may interpret what
you're--what you're saying.
565-346 Now, just don't do it to
puff yourself up, 'cause you're just edifying yourself then. You see?
Don't do that. But speak in tongues that you might edify God, might
edify the church. You see? It's all for one big cause, brother. These
gifts are to edify God, to edify the church, to bring people in to God,
to let them know that God is with us. He's not a dead God; He's a
living God working among us. See?
And we just have to watch that real close, 'cause, boy, the Devil hates
that like everything (You see?) to see real true gifts. 'Cause gifts
are weak, and he can really go to work on those gifts. Man, oh, man, he
can really impersonate every one of them. So that's the reason...
565-348 Now, look, the difference between a gift of prophecy and a prophet, there's just a million miles difference. Before a prophecy... A man with a gift of prophecy can even be told before the church, two or three has to discern that and say that it's true. That's right. But not a prophet (See?), a prophet is an office. Gift of prophecy is a gift. A prophet's born, has THUS SAITH THE LORD, brother, right on and on. There's nothing in that. You see? That's a prophet. But a gift of prophecy, that's a gift. You see? One's an office of God; the other one's a gift of God. See? And that's the difference.
565-349 Now, the messages, say,
now, for instance, here's the way it would be. Now, we'll say, like
Brother Junie, tonight, he interprets. We know that he's an
interpreter. Brother Neville's an interpreter (See?), interprets
tongues. Well, we know that. Now, what if here we're setting tonight,
oh, the Spirit of God just a-busting out to speak. My, goodness. And
we're--we're got this--we got... Wait, church is going to start in a
few minutes. See, we're--we're meeting just before the church. I'm
putting it in order like we'd have here.
Well then, the first thing you know, up gets Brother Ruddell and speaks
in tongues. Wait just a minute. See? Junie jumps up, "THUS SAITH THE
LORD, A certain-certain thing," or somebody over here. The scribes
taking it down over here (See?), whatever's said. Let's just take it
quickly, 'cause it... Get it fresh, right what he said. All right,
they... If--if it's refused, then you--you just better let it go
(See?), tear it up. But if it's not refused, it's accepted by two
people, then it's wrote out here, they sign their name on it. See?
That--that--that's for your church. That's... I'm telling you all for
your benefit. See? I don't know whether they did that in the beginning
or not.
566-351 And the first thing you
know, up jumps Hollin, speaks in tongues. Now, the interpreter might
claim the same message. See? It might be the same thing, certain thing
to take place, a prophecy (See?), something that's fixing to happen, or
something you must do. Up jumps Brother Roberson behind, speaks in
tongues. All right. It could still be the same message, give the same
interpretation (See?), or it could be three messages.
Now, God ain't going to put fifty messages out in one night. We know
that, 'cause you--you couldn't get them. You see? But whatever is
oppressing the church, like--or something it's doing, it's for the
edification of the church. See? Then I--I--I wouldn't permit any more
than that (See?), 'cause It said, "Let it be by courses of three." See?
566-353 Just the course of three,
then--then I'd say, "Go ahead and write them down, and put them up
there on the pulpit." You see? Then tomorrow night we meet again. See?
And if there's anything fixing to happen between now and tomorrow
night, God will speak it in one of those messages. See what I mean? Let
it be by courses of three. And I think now, Webster says, prophecy
can...
Can a ques--a message be called prophecy that does not foretell the
future?
No. If it's prophecy, it's prophesying, foretelling something that is
coming to pass. That's true too.
566-Q-120 All right, and I think...
Now, this is the last one till we get to these here.
120. Brother Branham, can--can any of these... Brother Branham, any of
these questions... It's wrote by typewriter and it's pretty near rubbed
out. Can any of these ques... Brother Branham, any of these questions
that you don't feel led to answer or commit on--or comment on (yeah),
comment on, lay aside, I won't feel bad at all. What is the full duties
of a deacon according to the Scripture?
Well, I--I believe they got that out there. If it's... I know it's one
of the deacons of our church. So I believe they got a order of it
there. We ought to get some more of them copies up and give to each one
of our deacons if we haven't got it. Wonder if we could get a copy of
that, Gene, one--or, you or Brother Leo, or some of them, about... Get
about six or eight of them and give them to our deacons. That gives the
duties, Scripturally, what a deacon's to do.
567-Q-121 121. In case we should have
a prophecy or a message in tongues out of order, just how should we
correct it?
Now, that's a good case of emergency. See, see? Now, bless you, deacon
who mentioned this, 'cause this is a good thing. You want to handle it
with rubber gloves. Now, if you give a... If someone comes in in our
congregation here and gives a message or a prophecy out of order, there
isn't hardly anything that you can do about it if they're on the floor.
See? You just... They know they're out of order and it'll--it'll--may
ruin the service. See? But if it does, just best thing to do, for the
deacons, is just to keep quiet. See? Because the prophet on the
platform is the one that actually's... You're--you're his protection;
you're his policemen. See? You're the guards around. See?
Now, if it's someone in our cong... If it's out of our congregation,
the person's untrained. See? They're not trained. That's what we're
trying to get in here (See?), that we--we know what to do. We know how
to train our people. But if it's--if it's out of our congregation,
well, we don't know how that poor person's trained.
567-359 For instance, like... Billy
remembers this, Costa Mesa, California. Every time when I'd get ready
to make an altar call there'd be a woman jump up, and run up and down
them aisles, speaking in tongues, and she'd just tear that altar call
to pieces. And I'd just have to walk out. You could see the Spirit
done--done grieved. You see? Nothing will grieve the Spirit of God if
it's in order. See? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]...
just before she got ready to start, how she'd get herself ready, 'cause
I watched her. Any minister will do that when he sees anything out of
order. Then this woman was back there, and she told Billy, and Billy
told me when I was coming in that night, said, "Daddy, you know that
woman that's broke them--them altar call, two nights?"
"Yeah."
Said, "She was setting out there," said, "she said, 'Glory to God,
Billy, I got another message tonight.'"
Well, now you see? I watched her down over the audience. There was
thousands of people there; that's when the "Reader's Digest" wrote up
that about the healing of Donny Morton, you know, "The Miracle of Donny
Morton." So I watched that woman, and just about the time I started to
make my altar call, she... Now, she was just untrained: no doubt, a
good woman. But she looked around, she started fixing her hair. She had
bobbed hair. See? So you see, she belonged to the Assemblies or some of
them churches that--that permitted that. She was fixing her hair up.
She reached down and pulled up her stockings, got ready like that. And
just about time I started to make the altar... I said, "Now, how many
in here... How many is there present now that would like to come
forward and--and give their hearts to the Lord Jesus."
568-362 She jumped up. I said, "Set
down." She started on. I said, "Set down!" See? And boy, everybody... I
just stopped. She acted like she didn't hear me, and I squalled it out
again. She heard me that time, 'cause I like to shook the building over
with that big microphone standing right there. And she set down.
I said, "Now, as I was saying, how many wants to come to the altar and
give their hearts to God?" And I went right ahead with the meeting. See?
And that night when I started to the truck, I was surrounded. And here
them bunch of women sounded like a bunch of chickens, you know, "You
blasphemed the Holy Ghost."
I said, "I did?" I said, "How can I blaspheme the Holy Ghost by
following the--His--the declaration of the Scriptures?" See?
And this woman said, "I had a message right straight from God."
I said, "But you was giving it in the wrong time, sister." I said, "I'm
not..."
"You say that wasn't--that wasn't of God?"
I said, "I couldn't tell you, lady." I said, "I--I--I believe it was.
See?" I said, "I'll say it for your benefit, that, 'I say I believe it
was.' And I believe you're a good woman, but you were out of order."
And there was her pastor standing there. I know he was her pastor. See?
I said... I--I said, "There's only one thing I can say, that either you
was in the flesh or you've got a pastor that's trained you that don't
know nothing about the Scriptures." I said, "He ought to come and talk
to us a little while about the Scriptures. That's wrong, you're out of
order. You lost many souls, night before last, and many last night
again, and would've done the same thing tonight."
And this man said, "Brother Branham," said, "I beg your pardon."
I said, "What do you mean?"
Said, "She had a right to give that message; you was through."
I said, "I was on the platform, and the spirit of the prophets is
subject to the prophet. I'm still in the platform."
And he said, "Well..."
I said, "I still had the message. I was making my altar call, that's to
rake in. I throwed my net out; I'm pulling it now. Don't throw barbed
wire out there or something to upset it. See?" I said, "I was still
pulling my net." And--and I said, "She interfered with the--with the
bringing in of souls. The very... What good would it do to preach or
anything else if you don't call and get sinners to come up? See?"
And he said, "Well, her message was later than yours. Hers was right
off the platform... Hers was right straight from God."
I said, "'If any man thinks himself to be spiritual or a prophet let
him acknowledge what I say is the commandments of the Lord. But if he
be ignorant, just let him be ignorant. We have no such custom, neither
the church of God,'" quoting Paul, you know. I said, "No, sir, nothing
fresh. He... Jesus said, 'Let every man's word be a lie and Mine be
true.' Paul said, 'Though an Angel from heaven come with anything else
but what's here, let it be accursed.'" I said, "Mister, you're firmly
off the line." I said, "What kind of a church have you got? I bet it's
a big bunch of confusion. See? If you'd let them people do that how do
you ever make your altar call? She's got a ministry, they all got a
ministry, but you got times for your ministry (See?) that's given to."
570-376 So that's right. No, and
now if that takes place in our church like that, like this, by some of
our brethren or sisters here in the church that does speak with
tongues, now, the deacons after the church, the board I think should
meet them together, and say, "Let me refer back to you on a tape just
for a few minutes. You see? See? You're just... Or the pastor..." Or
say, "I--I'm sure the pastor wants to speak to you. Would you just meet
us over here in the study a little while (See?), brother." Go in there,
and go in there and speak to him real nicely. See? And say...
But now, if they get all out of order and disturbing your pastor (See?)
if--if they're disturbing your pastor, then you elders should walk up
to him and say, "Just a moment." And if the pastor motions to you to
stop them, then he's done caught the spirit up there, that it's... That
they're breaking the spirit of the meeting. You see?
570-378 So if the pastor stops and
reverently bows his head, just don't say nothing. See? Don't say
nothing; let the pastor. But you watch your pastor. If he motions to
you like that, that you should stop it, then walk over with Christian
love, say, "My brother, sister," whichever it may be, "I believe you're
out of order, because you're disturbing the prophet. You see? He has
the message from God. When he gets through with his message, then we'll
see about it a little later." See, if it's disturbing him.
But if it's someone out, and the pastor with respect just stops and
waits a minute, then he--probably he will start right on. You see?
So... And if you notice, ninety percent of the time like that, the
interpretations, it's always just quoting some Scripture or something
like that, which it's probably flesh on both ends of the line. You know
what I mean like that. See? All right.
570-Q-122 122. Is more than one
permitted to speak a message in tongues without an interpretation?
No. They should come one by one. See? One give... One speak, and then
give the interpretation. See? And then if another speaks, the
interpretation; 'cause if you don't, the interpreter won't know what
he's doing 'cause there's two or three messages here banging on him at
once (You see?) and that'd be confusing to him. And God's not an author
of confusion. You see? So let one speak and another interpret. See? And
then... Give three messages, but let each message be interpreted.
571-381 Then we'll have... Like if
Brother Ruddell would speak and Brother Neville would give an
interpretation, Brother Fred just hold his peace. See, get that
interpretation. First, it's to be judged first, to see if it's of God
or not, in the first place. See? And all right. Now, if Brother Ruddell
speaks, Brother Beeler speaks, Brother Neville speaks, the poor
interpreter's got three messages in line; what--what, where will he
know what to do? See? Let him alone. Give the message and then hold
your peace; just wait. Let something be revealed to the next one
sitting by him; let him hold his peace, just set still. See? And then
let the interpretation come.
Then, when you do, write it down, then see what the discerners say.
See? If they say, "Well, it's--it's of God." All right, there's a
message (See?) put it down. Then wait just a minute. And the first
thing you know, well, then the Spirit moving on him, he will speak.
Then the interpreter wait a minute, see what the Holy Spirit's going to
say. Here he comes forth with that message. You see? And then he will
write that down. See? And let it be by courses of three.
571-Q-123 123. Brother Branham, we
know that you are a messenger sent from God to this church age. The
very same signs that followed Jesus we see following you, and we
are--understand why some who know you best think you are Messiah. Would
you explain the difference in your relationship to God and that of
Christ's?
Well, I know, brethren, that is true. See, but let's wait, I got
something wrote down on that here, just for a minute. See, many times
it's misunderstood. See? But now, in the person sometime... And I want
some of you to turn with me to Luke the 3rd chapter and the 15th verse.
While you're doing that, I might be saying to you when you get it, that
it's... Luke 3, it's... might... it's in... Let me just... I ain't
going to shut the door, 'cause there's nobody there. Let--let me just
get this to you, brethren. You have heard it; it's all around. But
let's let me tell you (See?); it has to come that way. It's got to come
that way. If it wasn't that way, I would repent of my message.
571-384 Listen, brethren, I adjure
you before Christ that you--you--you hold this part of your peace, but
if you were spiritual you'd understand. See? Don't you know what the
very first thing He said down there on the river? Don't you remember
what He said? "As John the Baptist was sent forth to forerun the first
coming of Christ, your message..." It's the message that will forerun
the second coming of Christ. That's what the Angel of the Lord said.
Now, now notice. Now, "As John the Baptist..." Now, all of you has
heard that. You've read it in books, and heard people that standing
there hearing It, and everything else, when that Angel Itself spoke
that message, "As John the Baptist was sent forth to forerun the first
coming of Christ, you're sent with this message, will forerun the
second coming of Christ." Now, "the message."
572-386 Now, if you'll notice, and
I... Little Willie out there put my name under that star out there, and
that's the reason I passed it over (You see?), 'cause I--I don't
think... Now, I'm going to be honest as I can be. I don't think I'd
have anything to do with that messenger. See? That's right. I believe
that I'm maybe being sent for a part, this church, to help build that
message up to a place to where it would when this forerunner comes,
that he will come.
But I believe, me being what I am, I am... I believe that I have the
message of the day. I believe that this is the Light of the day, and I
believe it's pointing to that time coming. You see? I believe that the
Message that he said down there, "the message that you have." Now, if
you noticed that Star that rose back there, was a...
572-388 Let me make it... I know
I'm--I'm pinching my time here, and I got these others, such fine
questions. I don't want... It's--it's after ten now, so--and I know
you're wanting to go home. See? But listen here. Let me show you
something. Will you give me just a--just a few moments extra? All
right, all right.
Now, look, now let me say something. Now, you brethren keep this among
yourself. See? Now, keep this among yourself. I got to get you straight
on this because you're my pastor... You're my pastors and things (You
see?), and I--I got to do this. And you're brothers with me working in
this message. See?
572-390 Now, as far as me myself,
as a man, I'm as you and worse than you. I--I--I... Many of you all
come with Christian backgrounds and things. "I'm the chiefest of
sinners," as it was said one time, "among you." The lowest of life, I
guess, that could be lived, as an unbeliever and doubter, I was.
But since a child I've always knowed that there was a God, and knowed
there's something happened in my life. And that's--that's beyond any
question, my brother. See? But let me say this, that there will
come--there will come a message, and there will come a messenger. I
believe that if it's to be a man, it--it'll be somebody after me. See?
It'll be... But this message that I'm preaching is the true message of
this day, and it's the last message. You see what I'm doing, brethren?
I'm putting you all the same place I am, 'cause you're just as much
into it as I am. You are messengers of this same message.
573-392 Let... Here, I got an
illustration. I--I think I can make it better by an illustration. Let
me just partially close this door for a moment. This is Jesus, and that
is Jesus; well, I'll put this over here, Gethsemane, and this here and
there. Now, you can't... I didn't even say this out before the church
out there. Now, remember, what kind of a light (a star) led the man who
was seeking wisdom "to guide us to Thy perfect Light"?
Now, I'm going to break down here just a minute and tell you something.
Let's jerk that thing off of--of Willie's done up there, and then say
it's right. Let's just say it's right. I can't say that, brethren.
That's a stuffed shirt. That I wouldn't... Even if I believed it, I
wouldn't say it. See? Somebody else says it, that's them.
573-394 But here, just like I was
just asked, some of the boys, if they would kind of testify of some of
the things that's happened. I don't like to get in the pulpit and
testify of something that's happened in the meeting. Let the manager or
somebody else do that, somebody else does it. I don't like to do that.
[A
brother says, "Even they came to John and said, 'Are you the
Christ?'"--Ed.] Yeah,
that's it, what I'm trying to get that. ["'Are
you that Prophet?'"--Ed.] He
denied it. ["Didn't
say either one, he says, 'I'm just one crying in the wilderness.'"--Ed.] "The voice of one crying in
the wilderness." He positionally placed himself.
[Another
brother says, "They asked him if he was that Prophet, he said, 'I am
not.'"--Ed.] Yeah.
Now... For the Prophet was that One that Moses spoke of. See, that's
the Prophet. See, see? But he knew who he was. See? But he did tell,
now, that... He did tell them (See?) and he did say, "I am the voice of
one..." That was him. He--he said what he was. See? But he was a...
574-397 Go ahead. [A
brother says, "When Christ came along then, following John, they come
to Him and He said... believed and he taught to these that Elijah would
come before the Messiah. He said, 'If you can receive it.'"--Ed.] That was him. That's right.
That's right. And John kept saying, "I'm nothing. I'm nothing. I'm not
worthy to loose His shoe."
But what about when Jesus said about him? He said, "Who'd you go out to
see?" Yes. Yes. "Did you go to see a reed shaken with the wind? Or what
did you go to see, some man in fine raiment and luxury and things?"
Said, "They're in king's palace. But did you go to see a prophet?"
said, "I say yes, and more than a prophet." He was more than a prophet;
he was a messenger of the covenant. That's what he was. He was more
than a prophet. He said, "There's never been a man born of a woman as
great as him to this time." See?
That's what it was (See?); he was a messenger of the covenant. He was
the one that introduced and said, "This is Him." All the other prophets
spoke of Him, but John said, "This is Him." See?
574-400 Now, watch. Now, notice.
The wise men followed a star. I'm going to take it back more of a minor
way. See? The wise men followed a star, asking, "Where is He born King
of the Jews?" You've heard the song. "We've seen His star in the east
and have come to worship Him." You've heard that, read it in the
Scripture. All right.
Westward
leading, still proceeding,
Guide
us to Thy perfect Light.
See, the star was guiding to the perfect Light, because the star was
only reflecting a Light. That's where we got this out here the other
day. See? How many was here Sunday to see that? See? Just got through
preaching about it. Shekinah Glory reflected in the star, and the star
reflects It. Here was the Angel of the Lord standing here on the
platform reflecting It back out there, out of the Shekinah Glory, just
exactly the same thing. There it was right exactly. Looking here at the
real one, looking out there and It being reflected right on the side
like that. See?
575-402 Now, notice this, now, that
star rose in the east. Is that right? It was a great star. All right.
And who was the actual earthly star in the time of the coming of Jesus?
Why, John. He was the one who guided them to that perfect Light. Is
that right? That was in the east at the first appearing of Jesus. And
now, there's a lot of little stars that cross over the horizontal until
it comes over to the evening star.
And the evening star shines in the evening. The morning star shines in
the morning. And they're both the same size stars and the same kind of
star. Now, put two and two together and you got it. See? See, there you
are. So it isn't... The star isn't Messiah; he's just reflecting the
Messiah.
575-404 Now, the star does not reflect its own light. The star reflects the light of the sun. Is that right? [A brother says, "No."--Ed.] Huh? ["In a sense. The moon does; the stars reflect their own light."--Ed.] Yeah, the moon... Yeah, really... I really mean that the moon reflects just the light. Yeah. Now, if a--if a star reflecting its light, then its light would have to come from the--from God, because it is a glacier of some sort. Isn't it? [The brother says, "Sun."--Ed.] Huh? A sun of itself, off of the sun. ["The suns farther away than our sun."--Ed.]Yeah. And they... We're told that those suns come from the big sun. The sun throwed these missiles off and they're little burning missiles like the sun. So they're amateur suns to us. Is that right? Amateur lights. ["Some are... Most of them are bigger than our sun."--Ed.] I mean to us, to us. See? We're talking about ourselves here. All right.
575-405 Now, if they are suns to
us, or light-givers, they are part of the main giver. See? The big sun
gives us the big light, the perfect light. The little suns, or the
little stars, which we can see in bodies, they may be far beyond
the--the sun that shines, but what they reflect to us is a smaller
light. But they're only giving witness of a light. Is that right? Then
when the big sun rises, the little suns go out. Is that right? They're
not the--the sun to us, they are a reflector like the sun. See what I
mean?
Now, the biggest among them in the morning, that heralds the coming of
the sun, the setting of the sun and the coming of the sun, is the
morning star and the evening star. Is that right? Two of the biggest
stars, the eastern star and the western star.
576-407 Now, now you see where it's
at? Elijah was the messenger to hail, herald the coming of the eastern
star, and predicted to be the heralder of the--the western star, or the
coming again of the new day after this day is past. Now, you see what
it is?
The east, "It shall be light in the..." See, just before the Sun was
herald to the earth, the morning star give witness that the Sun's
a-coming. Is that right? See, that brings forth the morning star. Well,
then the morning star and the evening star are the same type of stars,
and there's little stars all across. Don't you see what I mean? The
messengers.
576-409 Well, then, He was to look
upon as Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, Jasper and Sardius
stone. See what I mean? Now, the coming of--of Christ drawing near at
hand, then the message that Elijah was supposed to preach in the last
days, if there is a repeat of history... Just like the morning star
heralds the coming there, the evening star heralds the coming of a new
day, another day. This is the coming of the sun then that heralds
the--the going of the--of the sun that we have had and the coming of a
new sun (See?) a new age, a new time to come in.
Now, listen. Then if John brought forth his message and herald the
first coming of Christ, and Elijah comes in the last day, the prophet
said, "It'll be Light in the evening time." In other words, there would
be a Light in the evening time.
576-411 The evening light, the
biggest evening light we got is the evening star, greatest light we
got. Well, then, it would have to herald the same message that it was
as this other star. It's heralding the sun, speaking of the sun.
Well, now we're in the evening time, the evening Lights are here. This
age is vanished away. See what I mean? This day has passed over, and
there'll be heralding another day coming.
For, see, that's actually... If somebody was in the west and looked
back to that star, it would be in east. And then (You see?) "we have
seen His star in the east," but they was actually... they were--they
were in the east looking westward towards that star. Is that right? The
wise men was over in the west--over in the east looking back towards
the western star. See what I mean? But it was an eastern star to the
ones that was in the west.
577-414 See, like we'd say... I
always say, "Down is up." How do you know but what that's right? We're
standing in eternity, so the south pole may be up and the north pole
may be down. We don't know. See, the way up is down. See? We're... We
leave this; after this we go into eternity. It's hailing, heralding a
coming of an eternity, a different day, a different time, and
altogether.
Now, we're in the evening time. We believe that. We believe that the
coming of the Lord is at hand. All right. Now, if that be so, then
there's got to be an evening Light. And the evening Light, according to
Malachi 4, was supposed to "turn the hearts of the children back to the
fathers," back to the beginning.
But when he come the first time, he was turning the hearts of the
fathers to the children. The children was the ones that he'd gathered
around him. He was to bring the children--the hearts of the fathers
(the old, ancient orthodox fathers) back to this light that he was
heralding here.
577-417 Well, when he comes again,
he's to turn right back around (did you notice, before the world was
destroyed, "the great and terrible day of the Lord") and turn the
hearts of the children to the fathers, the evening--the evening star
which was the morning star at that time. Amen.
I hope--I hope I get it right. See? The evening star which was the
morning star, 'cause it's the same star. We're in the west, looking
east. They was in the east, looking west. It's exactly the same star.
See what I mean? It depends on where you're at (See?) whether it's the
eastern star or the western star. You see what I mean? All right.
577-419 Now, it brings... One
brings the faith of the fathers to the children; in this time it's the
faith of the children back to the fathers. You've went around, and
coming around again. Don't you see what you mean? See what I mean? It's
the same star all the time. The same thing, the same message, the same
thing right back again. It's passed over.
And how do you know which way you're going? I believe the hour will
come when they'll actually find out that the world don't even run. I
believe that with all my heart. I don't believe--how much they
scientifically prove it or anything more. They done a lot of scientific
proving they had to take back. See? God said the world stopped... The
sun... I mean the sun stopped instead of the world (See?), the sun. I
actually don't believe the sun... I--I--I don't believe the sun does
what they say it does. I know the moon travels, and I believe the--the
sun runs also. See?
But some of them say, "He looked at the ignorance of Joshua (See?),"
and said "He stopped the..." said, "It was..." Well, he said, "He
stopped the world."
I said, "Then you told me, 'if the--if the world would ever stop, it
would just shoot like a comet through space.' See?" I said, "Then, what
happened then?"
578-423 I was talking to Mr. Thiess
down here, the Bible teacher in high school; you know who it was, but
he told that. I said, "I believe that what the Bible said, that the
world stopped..." I said, "I mean, 'the sun stopped.' Joshua said to
the sun, 'Stand still.' and she stood there."
He said, "Well, He just stopped the world; He seen Joshua's ignorance."
I said, "You do the same by your intelligence then." See?
[A
brother says, "If he think it's scientific proof how long the--the sun
did stop."--Ed.] Yes,
there they... I've heard that too. Yes... They claim... I heard an
astrologer here sometime ago speaking on that, that they could prove
it. And at the same time that they... Something took place in the
atmosphere that they could see where something happened in the heaven
and it opened the Red Sea at that time and thing. They'd proved all
that. But, boy, I'm telling you, stars from way in yonder somewhere
else that done something like that at that time. However, that's too
deep for us.
578-426 So now, the reason that
this message--this message will have to be looked on in this respects,
to prove that it is... Now, we know, brethren, that man cannot be God.
Man, yet he is a god, each one of you are a god. You was made to be a
god, but not while you're in this life. See? Jesus was a man just like
we are, but God was in Him. The Fullness of God was in Him; we have the
Spirit by a measure.
But being that this Light has come, and if It is the true Light that's
to herald the message that John the Baptist heralded, as he said he did
on the river down yonder... And just look, how could it be--how could
it be anything else? Look at me (See?), not even a grammar school
education. When He told me the things that would happen, not one of
them has failed; not one of them has ever failed. Look what He's done.
Look it, He's even got...
And I told brethren back yonder years ago, I don't know who would be
the oldest one among us, but told them about these things, about seeing
this Light and what color It was, and everything. Now, the picture
shows that it is true. All these different things proves to be the
truth. Is that right? Well, then, if that is true... And it is the
Light...
579-429 Now, start about four... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]...
It's above that 3rd to 5th verse there, or I mean the... Let's start
about the 14th verse, brother. Who has it open? All right. Start about
the 14th verse of the 3rd chapter of St. Luke there.
[A
brother reads Luke 3:14-16:
And the soldiers
likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said
unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be
content with your wages.
And as the people
were in expectation, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether
he were the Christ, or not;
John answered,
saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier
than I cometh, and the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to
unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire--Ed.]
All right. What was it? The people were under such expectations of the
Messiah to appear, when they seen this great anointed ministry of a man
coming out of the wilderness, and having his campaign and going back in
the wilderness, many men, that was his own followers, said, "He is the
Messiah." They was expecting it. See?
Then if this is the true message of God forerunning the coming... of
John the Baptist, the same--like the same thing, the Elijah message,
it'll have to be thought of in the same manner. See? So that answers
that question, I think, exactly. See? It's got to be thought in the
same manner. See?
580-432 [A
brother asks, "Is there anything that we are responsible to do in order
to try to help anybody that would--would take in a--in a conflict like
that? Or what could we do?"--Ed.] There wouldn't be nothing;
there's nothing you can do. ["A
reprobate mind... Could that develop into a reprobate mind?"--Ed.] Well, it would come to a
reprobate mind if it come to this: if the man, that was it was spoken
of, would witness that he was the Messiah, then we know he'd be a false
christ. See?
See, as long as the man himself would hold his position... You see?
Like they told John, John didn't... It don't say nothing there about
him saying anything about them. They were--they were the--the people,
the--the lovely Christians who... or the believers that was believing
on John.
580-434 And they said, "This man
truly is a prophet of God, there's no doubt." They said,
"Are--are--are--are aren't you that Prophet?"
He said, "No."
He said, "Why, are--are aren't you the Messiah?" See, they--they
thought he really was. See?
He said, "No." See?
"Are--are--aren't you? Who--who are you?"
He said, "I'm the voice of one crying in the wilderness."
And then the Bible said, "The people being under expectations." Who was
that? His hearers, his listeners, his followers, his brethren. See?
Now, they didn't want to hurt him; they wasn't trying to hurt him. But,
see, they--they thought actually in their hearts that he was the
Messiah.
Well, now, history has to repeat itself on every occasion. We know
that. It has to repeat itself.
580-438 Like you take over there in
Matthew 3, it said, "That it might be fulfilled, spoken of the prophet,
'Out of Egypt I've called my son.'" Now, that wasn't... It was speaking
of Jesus, the Son; but run the reference; it was Jacob, the son, too.
See, see? It all has a compound meaning.
So now, if that... if those... If that thing did not rise, I would
still say it was in the future to rise, because I know this message
comes from God and it's the forerunning of Christ, and it is the Spirit
and the power of Elijah because it's to restore the hearts of the
children. Everything exactly vindicates it, so it's bound to shape up
to a thing to be like that under the true people, that--that's
absolutely believe and your brothers and friends.
581-440 Now, I've had... I got a
doctor right here in town. I can tell you of a doctor... I ain't going
to tell you who it is, a friend of mine who put his hands around me,
and said, "Billy, it would be easy for me to say to you, 'you are God's
last day Messiah.'" See?
I said, "Doc, don't you do that."
He said, "Well, I don't see nobody in the world that's ever had a thing
and say the things and do the things that you do, Billy." It's helped
him a lot. See? He said, "I go to these churches and see these
preachers and things." He said, "You're different from them and I know
you ain't got no education. (See?) And I know that you're not a
psychologist, 'cause you--psychology won't do those things." See?
And I said, "That's true, Doc."
No need in talking to him, 'cause he don't even know, you couldn't get
to first base with him (See?), 'cause he don't know what to do. But
that's it. You see?
581-443 I know a colored woman that lives up the lane from me; and she works for another man that I know of, and this man's wife called, said, "That woman would absolutely do worship to you as a god, 'cause she was dying with cancer and you laid hands on that woman and said she was..." This woman that she works for, her husband and this certain doctor (not the doctor I was speaking about, another doctor) plays golf and things together, and he'd give her up. And that was his buddy's housemaid, and had give her up to die, and she was healed absolutely. And the doctor couldn't even find a trace of it, of the cancer. And, see, she'd say...
581-444 Now, they don't mean it in
the light that I think that they say it in or we take it in. See? They
mean it that they--they... They mean that they believe God is with us,
in us, working through us; not that a individual is God. You see? Now,
they know that John was just a man.
And so was Jesus just a Man. Jesus was just a Man; He was just born of
a woman, had to die. Is that right? He was a Man, had to eat and drink,
and hungered, cried, and thirst, and everything, just as human as that
you are, as human as I am. But the Spirit of God was in Him in the
Fullness, without measure. He was omnipotent in power, where, Elijah
was just a portion of that Spirit, maybe anointed a little above his
brethren; but he was just a portion of the Spirit. But the people was
a-looking for the Messiah. And they seen this portion above their
brethren, they said, "Oh, my, this must be Him."
But when He begin to shine, John's little light went out. See?
And these little lights will go out when He comes, that great anointed
Christ of heaven coming from the east to the west. And the... and...
See?
582-448 But He will not be on earth
now, the Messiah will not be on earth until the millennium sets in.
See, see? 'Cause the church, we're caught up together to meet the Lord
in the air. He never comes to the earth. He catches His Bride away.
He gets a ladder, you know, like... What was that play, Leo, where the
man put the ladder up the side of the house? Romeo--Romeo and Juliet.
That's right, put the ladder up and stole his bride away.
Now, He's just coming down Jacob's ladder, and say, "Psst, Sweetheart,
come here. Psst, psst." See, we're going up to meet Him.
582-451 [A
brother asks, "Brother Branham, would this be correct then with that?
These people came to John the Baptist and they wanted to call him the
Messiah. And I heard you one time say that the Jew thinks the Messiah
was God."--Ed.] What
say? ["I
say, these people came to John the Baptist, thinking that he was the
Messiah, the Christ. I heard you say one time that the Messiah would be
God, for the Jew."--Ed.] Yes,
sir. That's right, the "rabbi."
[A
brother says, "Well, John rebuked them, saying that he was not, that
Christ was coming."--Ed.] That's
right. ["But
isn't it true that the disciples called Jesus 'Lord'? And Jesus agreed
to that, saying, 'You call Me "Lord," and so I am.'"--Ed.] Yeah. ["In--in
John 13, where He washed...?..."--Ed.] Yeah, He would admit it. ["As
being Lord, yes, He admitted it."--Ed.] He admitted it. ["He
accepted it."]Uh-huh, uh-huh. But, see, Jesus being Lord, when
He was asked if He was, He said, "Yes, sir. I'm Your Lord and Master.
You call Me that, and you say well, for so I am." But... ["But
there's never been no other being that would, that..."--Ed.] could say that. No.
Like if it... If somebody'd say that I was a god, well, let me tell you
in the Name of the Lord Jesus that that's an error. See? I'm a sinner
saved by grace with a message from God. See, see?
583-Q-124 124. Should or should not a
local church take care of her own--of her--her local (own)
responsibilities before taking care of foreign needs in other lands?
However, after she--her... After she meets her needs, it is Scriptural
for a local church to help in missionary work as she is able?
Yeah. Right. Charity begins at home. You see? We--we--we take care of
our own needs here, 'cause we'd have... This is the church of God, or
ever, your little church, the church of God. Now, if you can't even pay
your pastor, you can't even get song books and things, you shouldn't be
sending it somewhere else. See? But then after you got your church paid
for, and everything, your debts all up and everything, fixed and ready
and go on, then help that other brother that needs a little help out
yonder. You see? Get a little...
I believe, while... If you're making payments on your church I'd also
have a little fund set somewhere for a missionary offering if the
people felt like they wanted to give to missions. 'Cause a lot of
people will give to missions when they won't give to home churches and
things. So if they don't give it to missions, they'll spend it for
something else. So I'd say just have a little mission box, not...
That's the way we try to do.
583-Q-125 125. Luke 1:17, please
explain John's coming in the spirit of Elias.
Well, I think we just got Luke--Luke 1:17, uh-huh, coming in the spirit
of Elias.
[A
brother asks, "Is that where the reincarnationists get their
doctrine?"--Ed.] Pardon? ["Is
that where the people that believe in reincarnation begin their
theory?"--Ed.] Must
been. ["See,
they believe he come back in..."--Ed.] Yes. ["he
come back into another body."--Ed.] Yes (See?) it is true that
a spirit never dies. That's true. God takes His man but never His
Spirit. ["They
say, 'If you've been good you'll come back in--into some fine
fellow.'"--Ed.] Yeah.
Yeah. ["If
you've been bad you may come back in a dog."] Yeah, they have... Yeah.
Well, now, like over in--in--over in India, it was in a group of men
where we met like this, and they'd--they'd even mop the floor; step on
a little ants or something, it might be some relative or something. You
see, they wouldn't do it. But, you see, that's--that's pagan. See?
That's pagan. That's true.
584-Q-126 126. Paul said to the...
Paul said to "covet earnestly the best gifts, and yet show I you a more
excellent way." Please explain what the excellent way is.
Love, I Corinthians 13. See? "Covet..." Get First... Now, get I
Corinthians 13 there, brother. I Corinthians 13th chapter, and now just
read the last three or four verses of it. I Corinthians 13, last, about
the last three verses of the chapter--of the chap...
[A
brother reads I Corinthians 13: 11-13:
When I was a child,
I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but
when I became a man, I put away childish things.
For now we see
through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but
then shall I know even as I... also I am known.
And now abideth
faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is
charity--Ed.]
Uh-huh, sure, see?
584-Q-127 127. How should a brother
be condemned whose weakness is to take a place in church without being
asked to do so?
Oh, my. Well, suffer with him, I guess. See? How should a brother be
condemned... He shouldn't be condemned... whose--whose weakness is to
take place in a church without being asked to do so?
For instance, if he wanted to--to be a deacon (See?), and he's not
asked to do so, yet he wants to be a deacon anyhow. See? Well, if a
person's like that, you know there's a little something, you know, weak
somewhere anyhow, and so I'd just kind of deal with him in love.
And 'course, you never want to--to do a thing like that unless you
really know. Put your very best men you can on your board (You see?)
like that. Brother, don't never get nothing in there that's... Test
that man, first. A deacon's got more responsibility than the pastor
has. He's to be blameless, a deacon is. See?
585-Q-128 128. At a communion
service, a man came to the altar to pray. Brother Branham was standing
behind the--the elements of communion as they were being administered,
he said he could not leave them to pray with the man at the altar.
Please explain.
I sent the associate (You see?) Brother Neville. I remember the night
when it taken place. I'm supposed to stay with that communion table
(See?) even when... Look here. Now, I ain't got time to go into this.
Somebody setting here that asked, of course. Here's what it is,
brother. When--when you got the communion, that is a representation of
the body of Jesus Christ. It could be... It should be under guard all
the time.
585-463 Look, when Elijah said
to--to Gehazi, "Take my staff" (He'd blessed that staff.), he said, "go
on your road. And if anybody speaks, don't speak back. If anybody
salutes you, don't salute back. Go on, and lay that staff on the baby."
Is that right? "Stay with that staff." See? And that's what I was doing.
Now, if there had not been an associate pastor here, standing there...
I'd got through preaching. I remember when it was. And I... if they...
if Brother Neville hadn't have been standing here, or somebody to help
that man at the altar... I'd just got through preaching, so I was
standing at the communion table. And while they was fixing to take
communion, and I was already in--in giving the communion. Brother
Neville was just standing by, and I was ministering communion. Now,
Brother Neville was standing there.
585-465 What if they had come to
the altar and Brother Neville was still in his sermon, and he was
preaching? I'd have went to the altar with the man, if he'd have got up
out of the meeting while he was preaching, went up to the altar. I'd
have seen my brother was--that he had the anointing of the Spirit. He
was ministering. He was a minister in the... He was in the line of
duty, a minister in the line of duty.
And you should never let them speak with tongues, interrupt, or any
way, a minister in the line of duty. Yes, if the Holy Spirit's speaking
to somebody and they run to the altar to get saved, let the minister
continue on with his line of duty; let a pastor, deacon, associate, if
there's an associate or any other minister, let him take to that person
right quick. And don't bother the minister in the line of duty. See?
586-467 And I was standing behind
the desk in a line of duty, giving communion. And my associate, Brother
Neville, was standing by me. And a man run up to the altar, I said,
"Get, go down to him, Brother Neville." And Brother Neville went down
to him. That's the reason I didn't go.
Now, if there'd been no associate here, or nothing else to have went to
the man, I'd have stepped off and stopped the communion, and went down
and--and seen that soul was saved. You see? But being that there was
somebody to send, it would've pulled me from the line of duty (You
see?) where I was serving communion.
586-Q-129 129. What all can a person
do... What all can a person do as a personal worker in dealing with a
person seeking the Holy Ghost, and staying Scriptural?
All right. Just keep quoting the Word to him, is the best thing to do.
The Word has the Light. Just say, "Brother, Jesus promised It.
Remember, it is His promise."
Don't shake him, push him, or move him around, or something. Just don't
try to drill... No, don't you try to give It to him, 'cause you can't
do it. See, see? You... God will give It to him. You just keep quoting
the promises over. See? Keep standing there quoting the promise. "God
in heaven, I pray for my brother. Your promise is You'll give him the
Holy Spirit."
Then if you're trying to encourage him... He's saying, "Oh, brother,
pastor, brother," ever who it is around him, "I--I want the Holy
Spirit."
"Brother, It's a promise. God made the promise. Do you believe He's
promised? Now, don't doubt It. If you believe the promise, the Holy
Spirit will come to you just at any moment now. Be expecting It.
Surrender everything you got to Him, and say, 'Lord, I'm standing on
Your promise.'"
Now, keep quoting. Now, make your--your--your--your subject (See?) make
him quit... Keep quoting. Say now, "You tell God. Now, have you
repented?"
"Yes."
"Now, say, 'Lord, You said if I would repent You were just to forgive
me. You say if I repent and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for
the remission of my sins, I would receive the Holy Ghost. Now, Lord,
I've done that. I've done that, Lord. I have did it. I'm waiting, Lord.
You promised it.'"
See, that's the way, just keep encouraging him. Keep him right on the
Word. If It's ever going to come It'll come then.
587-Q-130 130. Is a preacher or any
Christian doing all right who doesn't believe in... No... Is a preacher
or any Christian doing all right who doesn't believe in eternal
security?
Now, let's see. I imagine the "doing..." See if you read that the same
as I do. Read it. [A
brother reads the question, "Is a preacher or any Christian doing all
right who doesn't believe in eternal security?"--Ed.]
Thought I might have that right. Now, well, I...
Is a preacher doing all right who doesn't believe in Eternal security?
I would believe that the preacher was doing... If he didn't know
anything about eternal security. But if he did know it and knowed it to
be the truth, and then not preach it, he needs to be ashamed of himself
(That's right.), or any Christian. Now, the Christian... Now, I would
say to--to the Christian that doesn't understand that too well...
[A
brother asks, "That isn't an open doctrine, is it, Brother Branham, to
be preached to people that have never...?"--Ed.] No, no, no. Now, that's
what I was getting to. Yeah. See, see?
Now, you remember what I said last Sunday? If you are a preacher, get
you a pulpit. If you're not, live your sermon. See, that's the best way
to do that; live your sermon. If you're a preacher, get a pulpit (See?)
and go to preaching. If you're not, just live your sermon; let your
life be your pulpit. See? I think that takes care of a whole lot, don't
you? See, see? Because a lot of times we find out... And you brethren
do that in your churches.
587-480 Remember, your laity
sometimes tries to explain things and do things; it's best that you
instruct them not to do it. And if somebody wants to know something,
let them come to one of the--the ones that's instructed to do it. You
see?
Say, well, now, like somebody would say, "Hey, I tell... They tell me,
you over at your church believe in eternal security."
Now, you better watch. You'll probably get in a bigger mess than you
ever was in (You see?) and make him worse off than ever. "Say, I tell
you what, if you'll come over and ask our pastor. See? You--you go talk
to him. See? We... That is true; I know our pastor believes that. I
believe it also, but I'm not able to support... I'm not a preacher. I
just believe it; that's all I know. I believe it because I've heard him
explain it so out of the Bible, that it was beyond any shadow of doubt
to me." See?
But better let the--better let the laity speak to the pastor about
that. And the pastor, be sure that he knows how to answer it too. So
study it real good, 'cause a lot of times they'll tie you up in it. You
see? What...
588-484 [A brother says, "Brother Branham?"--Ed.] Excuse me. ["Like a conviction...?... But I--I know my calling and I have made my election sure."--Ed.] Uh-huh. ["You just said that 'If you're a preacher, you should have a pulpit.'"--Ed.] Yes, sir. That's right. ["I'm not a preacher; I'm an evangelist."--Ed.] Yes sir. ["But everybody's pulpit is mine."--Ed.] That's right. ["But right now I'm working, physical labor. It's not hard work, but I'm working, and I have no pulpit. And I believe that this period of work that I'm in is in the will of the Lord. He's told me to do it, through the Word and witness of the Spirit. And I believe, later, that pulpits will be open."--Ed.] Sure, that's right. ["Is that right?"--Ed.] That's right, brother.
588-485 Brother, now, if you'll go back here and get the old church ledger, you'll find out that I pastored this church seventeen years, and preached every day, preached every day and worked every day. See? [A brother says, "If you're working, it's a good sign you are called."--Ed.] Yeah. Paul did, didn't he? Paul made tents. ["I was tend to be discouraged because, like you said, every preacher should have a pulpit. I'm... I would tend to be discouraged, but I know that God called me to get a job, for a season."--Ed.] Sure. Paul went and made tents, didn't he? Worked with his own hands so he wouldn't have to... That's exactly. Sure. ["That's where I'm at."--Ed.] See? That's right. See? John Wesley said, "The world is my parish." So your pulpit's still open, brother. The evangelists goes to all the world. Isn't that right? "Go ye into all the world." So your pulpit's the whole world. Yes, sir.
589-Q-131 Question:
131. Is it ruling, r-u-l-i... Is it ruling that a deacon or a trustee
must abide in the doctrine of their church? (Yes. That's right.) Is it
lawful for them to add to or take away of the teachings because of
their own personal opinion or revelation? (No, sir. No.)
A deacon or a trustee should be perfectly in harmony with the--with the
doctrine of their church. They should stay perfectly with the
interpretation of the Scriptures of their church, because, if they
don't, they're fighting against the very thing... They're--they're
hurting themselves. See? You're battling...
It's, other words, like if--if--if I say I love my family and try to
feed them poison. See, same thing. See, you can't do that, you...
A--a trustee or a deacon in taking their office, or any officer of a
church that represents a certain church body (See?) that represents a
church...
That's the reason I walked out of the Baptist church (See?) for the
very first time. I'd just been in there a little bit and they--they
asked me to ordain some woman preachers. Well, I couldn't actually stay
in it. I said, "I--I--I refuse to do it."
And the pastor jerked me up. "What's this? You're an elder."
I said, "Doctor Davis, in all due respects to the Baptist faith, and
everything that I have been ordained to, I did not know that it was in
the doctrine of the Baptist church to ordain women. That was one thing
that was left out of it."
And he said, "That is the doctrine of this church."
I said, "Sir, could I be excused for tonight, or would you answer some
questions for me?" See?
He said, "I'll answer your questions." Said, "It's your duty to be
there."
I said, "It is, sir. That's right. I'm supposed to anticipate in
anything that this church does. I'm in the line of duty, one of the
local elders." And he said... I said, "Could you explain to me why that
in I Corinthians 14 or 15 there, where Paul said, 'Let your women keep
silent in the churches; it's not permitted them to speak.'"
590-495 And he said, "Why,
certainly." He said, "If... I can answer that." He said, "You see, what
it was," said, "Paul said... All--all the women was setting back in the
corners, popping off like they do a lot of the other time. He said,
'Don't let them do that.' See?"
I said, "Then explain II Timothy to me, where Paul said also, the same
scribe, the same apostle, said, 'I suffer not a woman to teach or to
usurp any authority (See?), but to--to be in obedience. For Adam was
first formed and then Eve, and Adam was not deceived but the woman
being deceived... She's deceived. Now, I don't say she wants to do
anything wrong, but she's actually deceived in it. She shouldn't be a
teacher.'"
He said, "Is that your personal opinion?"
I said, "That's the Scripture's opinion to my way of seeing it. That's
what the Bible said."
He said, "Young man, you could have your license taken from you for
that."
I said, "I'll just save them the trouble. I'll just give it, Doctor
Davis." I said, "Not to any disregard to you..." And he wouldn't do it
though. He let it go, let it go by like that.
Then he told me he'd hold an open debate with me with it. And I said,
"All right, just anytime." But he--he didn't do that.
590-501 So then a--a little later
on then when the Lord spoke to me, and about the--the Angel of the Lord
came, then--then he just made fun of That. You see? And then I--I just
told him; I said, "Well, Doctor Davis, it's best that I get rid of this
right now (See?)," I said, "'cause it's going to be a burden. I'm just
been ordained a little bit, anyhow, so it's going to be a burden to me,
so I just might as well get rid of it right now."
So therefore, if I could not stay in the Baptist church and teach
Baptist doctrine and take up for Baptist belief... If I did it--if I
did it just because it was a church, then I'm wrong (See?); I'm hiding
something back. And if I--if I--if I'm honest with myself, I'll go to
the Baptist people (my pastor or whoever can explain it to me) and ask
them for a--a word of Life; if he can correctly show me where it's
right in the Scripture, and satisfies my feeling, then I'll speak it
just the way they speak it (See?), and I'll be a Baptist.
591-503 That's the reason I am an
independent. That's the reason that I do not belong to the
organizations, because I do not believe in organizations. And I believe
it's unscriptural for an organization. Therefore, I could not belong to
any organization and feel justified by doing it. See? Therefore, I do
not take people in and make them members and so forth like that,
because I believe we're born to be members; we are borned into the
Church of the living God. See?
We don't take people's names off the book, and excommunicate them, and
everything like that, because I believe that's not in our--our duties
to do that. I believe it's God does the excommunicating. See? But I
believe that the church, if there would be a brother that was doing
something wrong...
591-506 For instance, if--if they
caught Brother Neville, or Brother Junior, or Brother, some brother
here, one of the deacons or trustees, or something another, doing
something wrong, I believe the thing to do is for the church to get
together and pray for this brother. If he still don't straighten up,
then let a couple go with him, go to the brother to be reconciled. And
if then if he don't receive it, then tell it before the church. Then if
they don't receive it then, that's the time for the whole church then
(See?); that's for pastor, elders, and everything else to do it. I
don't believe that any deacon board has a right to throw anybody out of
church, or any trustee board, or any pastor has a right to do it.
I think if anybody was to be disfellowshipped, would be because of
immoral living, or something like that, that he wasn't a fit person,
like a man coming in here defiling our girls or--or insulting our
women, and things like that, and still professing to be one of us
here... See? Now, if he's out somewhere else coming in, why, we have to
do something about it, but, when it comes to a person like that, a
immoral person trying to make love to our wives, or--or insult our
daughters, or, you know, something another like that, or do something
immorally around her, or taking our little boys out and making perverts
out of them, or something, those things should be taken up, and then
that fellow should be excommunicated from the fellowship and not
permitted to take communion with it; because we're not supposed to do
that. We're not. "If any eats unworthily, is guilty of the Blood and
body of the Lord," on that person.
592-509 But I believe just like a
fellow say, "Well, now, he--he's this, that." Pray for him.
I never will forget, in Stockholm, Sweden, Brother Lewi Pethrus, a
great man of God. We was setting at the table, just a few hours before
coming back to America. We had great meetings there. And he said,
Gordon Lindsay said, "Who's the overseer of this great body?" Boy, it's
got the Assemblies of God beat by hundreds of miles. You see? Said,
"Who is the overseer?"
And Lewi Pethrus is gentlemen-like, and he said, "Jesus."
He said, "Who's your presbyters?"
He said, "Jesus."
He said, "I know that's right." Said, "We believe the same thing about
our Assemblies of God." He said, "That's right." But said, "Say, for
instance, a--a brother gets out of line," said, "who has the say so of
putting him out?"
Said, "We don't put him out."
Well, said, "What do you do?"
Said, "We pray for him." I thought that was so sweet. That sounded
Christian-like to me. "We pray for him." Nobody puts him out; they pray
for him.
592-513 Said, "Well, then, what if
some of the brothers agree," he said, "and some of them don't want to
fellowship with him anymore? Bring him in, like it's a pastor (You
see?) that's beginning to be a lady's man among the... You know what I
mean, and things like that, and some of the pastors won't have him in
their churches. What do you all do, throw him out of your organization?"
"No." Said, "We just let him alone and pray for him." Said, "We never
lost one yet. They always come back, somehow."
He said, "Well," said, "now, what if..." Said, "What if some of them
say that they want him and others don't want him? Now, what about that?"
Said, "Well, the ones that want him, take him; the ones that don't want
him, don't have to." So--so I think that's a good way to have it, don't
you, brethren? And that way we are brethren.
593-518 Now, brethren, I hope that
these things have give some kind of a little show towards an answer or
something, that our meeting here tonight has--has profited something.
I'm fixing to leave now for a while, going into the meetings out into
the west. I humbly covet your prayers.
Some of my answers in here, maybe many of them, maybe none of them was
right. I don't know. But it would be the best that I could accumulate
in my own way of thinking (You see?) to try to explain it. Maybe these
last ones, especially, come in there at last, I didn't have time to
look them up. And I just didn't... They was... What I mean, they were
Scriptures that we go through here every time, day after day in the
church. I thought maybe it'd be some great strenuous something that
might cause us to get down to really have to go into something great,
but it's just more like questions of churches.
593-520 I'm glad to see you holding
like that. there's not any disorder, not any discontent, not any
confusion, not a question debated it and said, "It's wrong. This is
wrong; we won't have It." It was just brethren that wanted to know
something to strengthen their holds; that's all. That... strengthen up,
buckle--buckle up the armor a little tighter, pull another notch in it.
I hope that we get to meet many more times like this, pull up the armor.
And you remember, brethren, my armor needs pulling up too. So you pray
to God for me that God will help me and pull up my armor a little
tighter, that I'll--don't get so loose with things. And the life that I
live and the things that I do, may I do it with more spirit of
humility, more anxious to do it. And God give me a heart to do it more
than I ever have had before. I pray the same thing for you all. God
bless you.
593-522 I've held you here a long
time, and it's right now five minutes till eleven.
And now, Brother Neville, I--I may... Now, I found out, it's only about
nine hundred and something miles over there; I'm not going to leave
until Monday morning. But I want to be here Sunday for Sunday school.
I'm coming as your guest to listen at you preach (You see?) Sunday.
See? But... Well, brother, yes, brother. Brother Neville, here's the
reason, brother. I'm... I love you, and you've always been so
considerate in offering the pulpit just like as if--like I was a senior
elder to you, or something. But I've never felt that way, Brother
Neville. I've felt that we are brothers.
594-524 Brother Ruddell, and
Brother Junie, and, oh, all you brethren and all of you, we're--we're
just brothers together. You see?
But what... The reason of it, I'm just a teeny bit hoarse now (You
see?), and I've got six weeks straight of just constant battle. You
see? And I--I just want to maybe start if I can, thought, after this
meeting tonight, that'd give me Friday and Saturday and Sunday to rest,
before I start on the meetings out there.
And Brother Junie, soon as I get back, one time coming in, I got to
come down and see you again, want to come out. I passed your little
church out there yesterday, I believe. My wife said, "I think that..."
Is it out there by the railroad track right by Glenellen Park? I'd like
to come out there and talk to those Sellersburg folks. Fine.
594-527 Brother Ruddell, bless your
heart. I'd like to come out; you got a fine bunch of people. You set
there tonight listening just like you was an old elder taking it in.
Brother Beeler over there, is one of our evangelist brothers. I hope
sometime I can meet one of your meetings somewhere, brother, can do
some influence, have something to say somewhere to boost you along.
I've always got a good word for you for anybody, you and to Brother
Stricker here, and evangelists.
Brother Collins here, which I believe someday will be a full time
minister in the work.
Men who are gallant men, gallant men, real men of faith, God be with
you all.
594-531 And you deacons, you
trustees, you brethren... I believe you're... The brother here, I can't
think of his name. You're... [Brother
Caldwell says, "Brother Caldwell."--Ed.]Caldwell. You're just
a... You're one of the elders or something, aren't you, or just a... ["Minister."] Minister. ["I'm
a minister. I belonged to the Church of God; I couldn't preach the full
Gospel and stay with them. I couldn't preach the baptism in the Name of
the Lord Jesus and stay with them. I had the highest ranking ministry
license that they put out, but I just turned them in. Since I heard you
preach those great messages, I turned them in and come out of
organization. Now, I want to be one of yours."--Ed.]
Thank you, brother. We welcome you to our fellowship. And our--our
credentials is of above. Our life makes our credentials. You see?
That's our credentials. "If I do not the works of My Father, then
believe Me not." See? That's right. That's our credentials. And as an
old... As Howard Cadle used to say, "We have no law but love, no book
but the Bible, and--and no--no creed but Christ." That's right. "No law
but love, creed but Christ, book but the Bible."
595-533 And we're--we're, Brother Caldwell, we're happy to have you. You come out of a great organization. The Anderson Church of God, I suppose. [Brother Caldwell says, "The Cleveland."--Ed.] Or Cleveland church, Pentecostal Church of God. ["I used to pastor out here at...?..."--Ed.]. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, I've been out there. I believe I was out there with Brother Neville, or Brother Wood, one time, we got a dog or hound dog from somebody that went to your church out there. And I got to standing on the steps out there and talking, and they was talking about you. Well, I'm sure... ["At my church."--Ed.] Oh? ["Burns."--Ed.] That's right, Brother Burns. That's right [Brother Caldwell relates an incident--Ed.] Oh? Yes. Oh, Bertha, that's right. Oh, that's wonderful.
595-534 Brother Rook over there, he's become a pastor now, or evangelist, I believe. Is that right? Or are you pastoring? [Brother Rook says, "Just evangelist."--Ed.] Evangelist. I want to comment you, Brother Rook. I've heard of some great work you're doing for the Lord. You... I heard you went to Indianapolis or was going to Indianapolis, and had services and won souls to Christ. God be with you, Brother Rook. I'm sure glad to see you. I seen you out here on this old tractor out here, running around out here, just fertilizing your yard out there. Well, see you out trying to do something for the Lord. Glad He called you to the ministry, ever hold Him before you, brother. God bless you. Don't compromise on nothing; but do it with the sweetest spirit you can do it with. Let your--let your message always be seasoned with the sweetness of the Holy Spirit.
595-535 And Brother Stricker... [A
brother says, "We desire the prayers of all of you. We're trying to get
a church started down at North...?..."--Ed.] Oh, I hope you get it.
We'll pray for you.["Doing
very well, so far."] That's
right.
Billy, when you going to start pastoring?
Doctor Goad and Doctor Mercier here, I--I--I hope... As we call one
another that. And Brother Goad has got to a place till I... He really
deserves a title; he can load shells now. Yeah. Well, he's... And--and
Brother Leo, I believe we can just let him go at that like that, and
call him--let him continue his title of--of Doctor.
Well, "Doctor" Branham, back there, you just keep her doctored up real
good, and the lights burning real good. And--and I'll tell you what,
whenever we have a special meeting I'll talk to the board and see if
they can't give you a little extra on that [Brother
Branham laughs--Ed.], for special work when you have to do so
much sweeping and carrying in and out, and that'll make you happy.
596-538 Doctor Wood... I called him
Doctor; I guess you wonder why. I don't misname him, he just butchers
wood all to pieces, you know. The Lord will grow a pretty tree, and he
will cut it down and make a house out of it. I've never seen such as
that, so I have to call him Doctor.
Brother Taylor, you're still faithful at the door to give a fellow a
seat. I think of you like this, "I would rather be a doormat at the
house of the Lord than to dwell in the tents with the wicked." That's
right. Sure.
Brother Hickerson, you just started in the way, and up, coming along. I
desired your... I... You started in the way, and coming along, I just
certainly admire your sincerity and all that you're doing for the Lord
Jesus. God ever bless you and make you a true deacon, brother, which I
believe you are, your house in subjection and all things as you have
been.
596-541 Brother Fred, you ain't
been with us very long, coming down from Canada. We don't feel you're a
Canadian anymore; we feel you're a pilgrim and a stranger with us of
a--as a trustee. You and Brother Wood, and you that serve your office
good with Brother Roberson, and the rest of it; Brother Egan, he's not
here tonight.
And Brother Roberson, you've been a--a real help to me, Brother
Roberson along with others, in this tax case that went under this
investigation.